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    keegan
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    first, go here[^]. second, go here[^]. Comments? If this really does go into effect, there are going to be some major changes to computing as we know it today. No more freeware, no more open source, no more small businesses. It'll cost money to get approved 'trusted' which many small businesses can't afford. :( *.* cin >> knowledge;

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      first, go here[^]. second, go here[^]. Comments? If this really does go into effect, there are going to be some major changes to computing as we know it today. No more freeware, no more open source, no more small businesses. It'll cost money to get approved 'trusted' which many small businesses can't afford. :( *.* cin >> knowledge;

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      I started a thread about a similar thing a few days ago... I agree, I don't like the paradigm of "trusted" software. It does hurt the small guys. True, many of the annoying spyware and badly written programs are by the "small guys", but just as many other small guys and open source groups produce quality software. If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.

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        first, go here[^]. second, go here[^]. Comments? If this really does go into effect, there are going to be some major changes to computing as we know it today. No more freeware, no more open source, no more small businesses. It'll cost money to get approved 'trusted' which many small businesses can't afford. :( *.* cin >> knowledge;

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        Every few years, there is some sort of technology consortium. Few things come of them imply because the masses will choose what they will choose. In the end, Microsoft, HP, etc. won't implement something if it means a large drop in sales. (Unless it protects them from lawsuits which exceed the revenue of those sales.) The anti-TCPA crowd is just plain silly though. They tend to take even the good ideas and throw them all away. (In light of this, in the 80s, many, if no most, computer journalists pontificated that Intel should have put security features into their chips. So they did and got raked over the coals by the public and same journalists.) Joe Woodbury When all else fails, there's always delusion. - Conan O'Brien

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          Every few years, there is some sort of technology consortium. Few things come of them imply because the masses will choose what they will choose. In the end, Microsoft, HP, etc. won't implement something if it means a large drop in sales. (Unless it protects them from lawsuits which exceed the revenue of those sales.) The anti-TCPA crowd is just plain silly though. They tend to take even the good ideas and throw them all away. (In light of this, in the 80s, many, if no most, computer journalists pontificated that Intel should have put security features into their chips. So they did and got raked over the coals by the public and same journalists.) Joe Woodbury When all else fails, there's always delusion. - Conan O'Brien

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          to some extent i agree about the anti-crowd going a little out there, but where can you draw the line? TCPA plans on implementing chips in phones, cd players, tVS, camcorders, etc, so like if im on the phone, and i put it near my cd player, one of them will shut off. Honestly now, people. I concur with the ideas put forth by the creators to help ensure the security of their software, i for one will admit to havng used pirated software. I just might be missing it, but why should everyone who wants to get their programs published be forced to get them 'trust approved?' For all the poeple here who submit their products to places like sourceforge, what about them? More than likely, they'll be forced to pay a fee to get trusted. Paying a fee for freeware. Harumph. What about me? I'm a comptuer science major, sophomore. If this were to take place immediately (hypothetically) what would happen to my projects? If i have to write a program to solve a problem assigned by my professor, every time i hit ctrl+shift+b would i have to get it approved? Where do you draw the line? WHo are these people to say that i cant give away free programs? Are they so concerned im stealing their ideas and revenue? Poor babies. If i write a better program than you, what are you going to do? Hack my computer so i cant write anymore? Or are you goign to write better code than me? :( *.* cin >> knowledge;

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            to some extent i agree about the anti-crowd going a little out there, but where can you draw the line? TCPA plans on implementing chips in phones, cd players, tVS, camcorders, etc, so like if im on the phone, and i put it near my cd player, one of them will shut off. Honestly now, people. I concur with the ideas put forth by the creators to help ensure the security of their software, i for one will admit to havng used pirated software. I just might be missing it, but why should everyone who wants to get their programs published be forced to get them 'trust approved?' For all the poeple here who submit their products to places like sourceforge, what about them? More than likely, they'll be forced to pay a fee to get trusted. Paying a fee for freeware. Harumph. What about me? I'm a comptuer science major, sophomore. If this were to take place immediately (hypothetically) what would happen to my projects? If i have to write a program to solve a problem assigned by my professor, every time i hit ctrl+shift+b would i have to get it approved? Where do you draw the line? WHo are these people to say that i cant give away free programs? Are they so concerned im stealing their ideas and revenue? Poor babies. If i write a better program than you, what are you going to do? Hack my computer so i cant write anymore? Or are you goign to write better code than me? :( *.* cin >> knowledge;

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            You're listening to the crackpots too much. They are creating an entirely bogus strawman argument. The TCPA members have zero intention of forcing customers to use trusted software, their customers don't want that and wouldn't put up with it. They do want a unified system which will run only trusted software/hardware for those narrow cases where it's needed (like high availability and/or highly secure servers.) In the long run, this will likely become a requirement by companies and governments and for good reason. The only real impact I see on your average consumer is that the participating companies may have provisions to not give free, or low cost, support if someone used non-trusted software. (Just like car makers will refuse to honor warranties if you use low quality replacement parts in your car.) Joe Woodbury When all else fails, there's always delusion. - Conan O'Brien

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              first, go here[^]. second, go here[^]. Comments? If this really does go into effect, there are going to be some major changes to computing as we know it today. No more freeware, no more open source, no more small businesses. It'll cost money to get approved 'trusted' which many small businesses can't afford. :( *.* cin >> knowledge;

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              The customers will decide about TCPA: People buy TCPA hardware -> no more freeware, nearly no more shareware People buy hardware second-hand to avoid that new TCPA stuff -> intel and friends will have to change their minds

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