MSDN Questions
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Hello all. I'm looking into buying an MSDN subscription for my department. I've already read up on MSDN at Microsoft's website, but I'd like to have your opinion. I have the following questions... 1) Why do so many sites list MSDN Universal 7 for about $1200 while MS and this site lists it for over $2000? This is very suspicious, but they look like respectable sites. For example: http://www.directdeals.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=534-02125[^] http://www.viosoftware.com/msun70sub.html[^] http://www.software-intl.com/msdn001/[^] http://ebargainsoftware.com/mimsunv71yes.html[^] http://www.crmsoftwares.com/msdnuniversal.html[^] 2) Do any of these MSDN subscriptions include international versions of Windows, Office, etc? I have a 3 year old copy of MSDN which did, but I haven't seen this listed in any of the subscriptions' feature list. 3) What's the best package for a development team of about 3 to 4 people? I've read that I need a volume license. What's your opinion? 4) What has been your experience with the newest MSDN? What about purchasing experience? I'm sure many of you are going to recommend that I purchase MSDN from codeproject, but I need to evaluate my options before making my purchase request to the "powers that be" at work! :-D Thanks in advance!
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Hello all. I'm looking into buying an MSDN subscription for my department. I've already read up on MSDN at Microsoft's website, but I'd like to have your opinion. I have the following questions... 1) Why do so many sites list MSDN Universal 7 for about $1200 while MS and this site lists it for over $2000? This is very suspicious, but they look like respectable sites. For example: http://www.directdeals.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=534-02125[^] http://www.viosoftware.com/msun70sub.html[^] http://www.software-intl.com/msdn001/[^] http://ebargainsoftware.com/mimsunv71yes.html[^] http://www.crmsoftwares.com/msdnuniversal.html[^] 2) Do any of these MSDN subscriptions include international versions of Windows, Office, etc? I have a 3 year old copy of MSDN which did, but I haven't seen this listed in any of the subscriptions' feature list. 3) What's the best package for a development team of about 3 to 4 people? I've read that I need a volume license. What's your opinion? 4) What has been your experience with the newest MSDN? What about purchasing experience? I'm sure many of you are going to recommend that I purchase MSDN from codeproject, but I need to evaluate my options before making my purchase request to the "powers that be" at work! :-D Thanks in advance!
I've had an MSDN subscription since '94, and MSDN Universal since '99. Licensing on the MSDN Library is the most flexible. You can install the library on as many machines as you want. This makes sense, since the library is freely available on the web anyway. MSDN Universal includes 'the works':
- MSDN Library
- Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
- All of the software development kits (SDK's) and driver development kits (DDK's)
- Microsoft Office
- All versions of Windows, optionally in all languages supported by Microsoft.
- Many of Microsoft's server products.
In my case, one copy of MSDN Universal supports our entire development group (8 people), although we have purchased separate licenses for Visual Studio. If you are using more than Visual C++ or Visual Basic, or you need foreign language versions, or you're doing Office development, the Universal subscription is the way to go. It's cheaper in the long run, rather than buying individual pieces as you need them. Microsoft usually gives a rebate for renewals. Last year, we paid $1999 for our subscription renewal.
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Hello all. I'm looking into buying an MSDN subscription for my department. I've already read up on MSDN at Microsoft's website, but I'd like to have your opinion. I have the following questions... 1) Why do so many sites list MSDN Universal 7 for about $1200 while MS and this site lists it for over $2000? This is very suspicious, but they look like respectable sites. For example: http://www.directdeals.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=534-02125[^] http://www.viosoftware.com/msun70sub.html[^] http://www.software-intl.com/msdn001/[^] http://ebargainsoftware.com/mimsunv71yes.html[^] http://www.crmsoftwares.com/msdnuniversal.html[^] 2) Do any of these MSDN subscriptions include international versions of Windows, Office, etc? I have a 3 year old copy of MSDN which did, but I haven't seen this listed in any of the subscriptions' feature list. 3) What's the best package for a development team of about 3 to 4 people? I've read that I need a volume license. What's your opinion? 4) What has been your experience with the newest MSDN? What about purchasing experience? I'm sure many of you are going to recommend that I purchase MSDN from codeproject, but I need to evaluate my options before making my purchase request to the "powers that be" at work! :-D Thanks in advance!
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I've had an MSDN subscription since '94, and MSDN Universal since '99. Licensing on the MSDN Library is the most flexible. You can install the library on as many machines as you want. This makes sense, since the library is freely available on the web anyway. MSDN Universal includes 'the works':
- MSDN Library
- Visual Studio .NET Enterprise Architect
- All of the software development kits (SDK's) and driver development kits (DDK's)
- Microsoft Office
- All versions of Windows, optionally in all languages supported by Microsoft.
- Many of Microsoft's server products.
In my case, one copy of MSDN Universal supports our entire development group (8 people), although we have purchased separate licenses for Visual Studio. If you are using more than Visual C++ or Visual Basic, or you need foreign language versions, or you're doing Office development, the Universal subscription is the way to go. It's cheaper in the long run, rather than buying individual pieces as you need them. Microsoft usually gives a rebate for renewals. Last year, we paid $1999 for our subscription renewal.
Software Zen:
delete this;Thanks for the reply Gary. I need the foreign language OSes, so it sound like MSDN Universal is the way to go. I also plan on updating my group's visual studio to .Net 2003, so it sounds like I'm taking the same route as you. I imagine everyone in your group install VS.Net from MSDN. So, how did you purhcase just the licenses for Visual Studio? Through the MSDN volume license? Thanks again.
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Thanks for the reply Gary. I need the foreign language OSes, so it sound like MSDN Universal is the way to go. I also plan on updating my group's visual studio to .Net 2003, so it sounds like I'm taking the same route as you. I imagine everyone in your group install VS.Net from MSDN. So, how did you purhcase just the licenses for Visual Studio? Through the MSDN volume license? Thanks again.
The company I work for has a volume licensing deal for Microsoft software through a vendor. I bought our VS .NET licenses that way. In our case, they were all upgrades to Visual C++ 6.0, so they were pretty cheap. Strangely enough, we can't buy MSDN subscription renewals through it, so I ended up renewing our subscription directly through Microsoft.
Software Zen:
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