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    SEATTLE, Washington (Reuters) -- Microsoft Corp. said on Friday that its latest version of Office software inadvertently contained a font featuring two swastikas, and said it would offer tools to remove and replace the offending characters from the program. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/12/12/microsoft.swastika.reut/index.html[^] :rolleyes:

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      SEATTLE, Washington (Reuters) -- Microsoft Corp. said on Friday that its latest version of Office software inadvertently contained a font featuring two swastikas, and said it would offer tools to remove and replace the offending characters from the program. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/12/12/microsoft.swastika.reut/index.html[^] :rolleyes:

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      "The swastika, which was made infamous by Nazi Germany" is just that - a symbol that was made infamous by Nazi Germany, not one invented by it. What next, are we to remove pens and paper because they can draw swastikas? Are we to raid libraries and tippex out all references to 'the bad symbol'? Microsoft offering to remove it isn't what I find amazing about this news - the fact that somebody actually sought to whine to them about it to them in the first place is. Or is there a real threat that action could have been taken against Microsoft if they had not offered to remove it? :wtf: :~


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      • B Bruce Duncan

        SEATTLE, Washington (Reuters) -- Microsoft Corp. said on Friday that its latest version of Office software inadvertently contained a font featuring two swastikas, and said it would offer tools to remove and replace the offending characters from the program. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/12/12/microsoft.swastika.reut/index.html[^] :rolleyes:

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        Bruce Duncan wrote: a font featuring two swastikas :laugh::laugh::laugh: This could make for a great court battle. The swastika is (post WWII) associated with Nazis, and some will be offended by it being used in Office. But long before Germany adopted the symbol it was widely used in native American art. It would be interesting to have a few tribes object to the exclusion of their symbols and see how it all falls out. Doesn't it seem ironic that many people find political correctness offensive?;) "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

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          SEATTLE, Washington (Reuters) -- Microsoft Corp. said on Friday that its latest version of Office software inadvertently contained a font featuring two swastikas, and said it would offer tools to remove and replace the offending characters from the program. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/12/12/microsoft.swastika.reut/index.html[^] :rolleyes:

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          ...how ever shall i complete whitepower.doc now? :rolleyes:

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            Bruce Duncan wrote: a font featuring two swastikas :laugh::laugh::laugh: This could make for a great court battle. The swastika is (post WWII) associated with Nazis, and some will be offended by it being used in Office. But long before Germany adopted the symbol it was widely used in native American art. It would be interesting to have a few tribes object to the exclusion of their symbols and see how it all falls out. Doesn't it seem ironic that many people find political correctness offensive?;) "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

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            Roger Wright wrote: Doesn't it seem ironic that many people find political correctness offensive? Very! :laugh:

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              SEATTLE, Washington (Reuters) -- Microsoft Corp. said on Friday that its latest version of Office software inadvertently contained a font featuring two swastikas, and said it would offer tools to remove and replace the offending characters from the program. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/12/12/microsoft.swastika.reut/index.html[^] :rolleyes:

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              Removing "offending" glyphs from fonts goes back to the early nineties. All sorts of wacky conspiracy theories have been proposed about glyph placement. (Like the relationship of a star of David to a cross.) The irony here is that the swastika used to be considered a lucky or divine symbol by many cultures before the Nazi's coopted it. When I was a kid, a neighbor had a gorgeous Navajo rug that used a swastika motif (though the Navajo swastika is reversed from the one used by Hitler.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                ...how ever shall i complete whitepower.doc now? :rolleyes:

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                Shog9 wrote: how ever shall i complete whitepower.doc now? good. Can you help me with robosapienfriends.doc ? :) Later, JoeSox "That sounds exactly like the thinking of a machine to me." -- Morpheus, The Matrix Reloaded joeswammi.com ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ joeswammi.com/sinfest

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                  Removing "offending" glyphs from fonts goes back to the early nineties. All sorts of wacky conspiracy theories have been proposed about glyph placement. (Like the relationship of a star of David to a cross.) The irony here is that the swastika used to be considered a lucky or divine symbol by many cultures before the Nazi's coopted it. When I was a kid, a neighbor had a gorgeous Navajo rug that used a swastika motif (though the Navajo swastika is reversed from the one used by Hitler.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                  The E2 (it's back up! yay!) writups on swastika give further information on the history and uses of this symbol. (also noting that it appears in the Unicode character set)

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                    Bruce Duncan wrote: a font featuring two swastikas :laugh::laugh::laugh: This could make for a great court battle. The swastika is (post WWII) associated with Nazis, and some will be offended by it being used in Office. But long before Germany adopted the symbol it was widely used in native American art. It would be interesting to have a few tribes object to the exclusion of their symbols and see how it all falls out. Doesn't it seem ironic that many people find political correctness offensive?;) "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

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                    It was also used long before the nazis by the Hindus as a symbol of peace. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                      ...how ever shall i complete whitepower.doc now? :rolleyes:

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                      I guess you'll have to resort to ascii art. :-D ------------------------------------------ Law of Nazi Analogies: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. In any debate, Hitler's opinion on the subject is automatically the evil one, so it had better be contrary to the side you're arguing.

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                        SEATTLE, Washington (Reuters) -- Microsoft Corp. said on Friday that its latest version of Office software inadvertently contained a font featuring two swastikas, and said it would offer tools to remove and replace the offending characters from the program. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/12/12/microsoft.swastika.reut/index.html[^] :rolleyes:

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                        Sign of events to come maybe?


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                        • R Roger Wright

                          Bruce Duncan wrote: a font featuring two swastikas :laugh::laugh::laugh: This could make for a great court battle. The swastika is (post WWII) associated with Nazis, and some will be offended by it being used in Office. But long before Germany adopted the symbol it was widely used in native American art. It would be interesting to have a few tribes object to the exclusion of their symbols and see how it all falls out. Doesn't it seem ironic that many people find political correctness offensive?;) "Another day done - All targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly" - Jennie A.

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                          I know what you mean...we just received a complaint from an Air Traffic Controller because we use the terms Master and Slave to describe the functionality of our system that is used to automate the systems used to land airplanes. So now, we have to not only change the designators for the workstations, but all of the documentation and course materials. We opted to change 'slave' to 'client'. I'm sure the subject would never have come up if it hadn't been for the publicity from the Los Angeles County complaint about a video duplicator with Master / Slave labels. Steve

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