Movie: Something's Gotta Give
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Anybody with a heart should go watch this movie starring Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson with Keanu Reeves in support. It is a comedy but has many touching and true to life moments. Granted, the ending is pure Hollywood sacharine sweetness and should have been cut by 5 minutes (actually, when you see Jack on the bridge, wait for his monologue to end then get up and run as fast as you can out of the theatre so that the effect is not spoiled). Another scene should have been shortened drastically but all in all, a fine movie. Jack rocks as usual and, heaven forbid, you warm up to Keaton. Any other good movies floating about? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Top notch movie. I enjoyed it a lot. And the end didn't bother me so much.. I mean, what's 5 minutes of nearly 2 hours? ;) -- Ich bin der böse Mann von Schweden.
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Top notch movie. I enjoyed it a lot. And the end didn't bother me so much.. I mean, what's 5 minutes of nearly 2 hours? ;) -- Ich bin der böse Mann von Schweden.
It is like removing the last few pages from The Summer of Katya or adding "Then Neo really woke up" at the end of The Matrix. I just felt that what Jack felt and spoke about at the end, pre-shlock-happy-ending, was truer to the 2 hours that had preceeded it. It felt like a stuck on ending to make movie goers feel happier rather than the challenging and thought provoking ending-that-should-have-been. It was American afterall*. Go ahead punk, vote me down, rant and rave, you know it is true, happy-ending obsessed monsters! ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
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It is like removing the last few pages from The Summer of Katya or adding "Then Neo really woke up" at the end of The Matrix. I just felt that what Jack felt and spoke about at the end, pre-shlock-happy-ending, was truer to the 2 hours that had preceeded it. It felt like a stuck on ending to make movie goers feel happier rather than the challenging and thought provoking ending-that-should-have-been. It was American afterall*. Go ahead punk, vote me down, rant and rave, you know it is true, happy-ending obsessed monsters! ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Yeah, just look at the enormous difference between the 'Love Conquers All' version of Brazil vs Brazil the way it was meant to be shown. Rob Manderson Colin Davies wrote: I'm sure Americans could use more of it, and thus reduce the world supply faster. This of course would be good, because the faster we run out globally, the less chance of pollution there will be. (Talking about the price of petrol) The Soapbox, March 5 2004
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Anybody with a heart should go watch this movie starring Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson with Keanu Reeves in support. It is a comedy but has many touching and true to life moments. Granted, the ending is pure Hollywood sacharine sweetness and should have been cut by 5 minutes (actually, when you see Jack on the bridge, wait for his monologue to end then get up and run as fast as you can out of the theatre so that the effect is not spoiled). Another scene should have been shortened drastically but all in all, a fine movie. Jack rocks as usual and, heaven forbid, you warm up to Keaton. Any other good movies floating about? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Paul Watson wrote: Any other good movies floating about? Megan and I went and saw Secret Window[^] last night, good movie, different ending than I expected though. - Nick Parker
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Anybody with a heart should go watch this movie starring Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson with Keanu Reeves in support. It is a comedy but has many touching and true to life moments. Granted, the ending is pure Hollywood sacharine sweetness and should have been cut by 5 minutes (actually, when you see Jack on the bridge, wait for his monologue to end then get up and run as fast as you can out of the theatre so that the effect is not spoiled). Another scene should have been shortened drastically but all in all, a fine movie. Jack rocks as usual and, heaven forbid, you warm up to Keaton. Any other good movies floating about? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
I just tried to rent it a few minutes ago, but the local store doesn't have it.:(( I had to settle for The Phantom Menace and The Fifth Element for this evening's fare.;) Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small
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Paul Watson wrote: Any other good movies floating about? Megan and I went and saw Secret Window[^] last night, good movie, different ending than I expected though. - Nick Parker
My Blog | My ArticlesSecret Window was a good movie. Yeah, I wasnt expecting that ending either. Signature under construction.
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Anybody with a heart should go watch this movie starring Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson with Keanu Reeves in support. It is a comedy but has many touching and true to life moments. Granted, the ending is pure Hollywood sacharine sweetness and should have been cut by 5 minutes (actually, when you see Jack on the bridge, wait for his monologue to end then get up and run as fast as you can out of the theatre so that the effect is not spoiled). Another scene should have been shortened drastically but all in all, a fine movie. Jack rocks as usual and, heaven forbid, you warm up to Keaton. Any other good movies floating about? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Paul Watson wrote: Any other good movies floating about? This one came out on DVD a month or 2 ago, one of my favs of 2003: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Spellbound-1122382/
"Insanity runs in my family... It practically gallops." - Mortimer Brewster, in Arsenic and Old Lace
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It is like removing the last few pages from The Summer of Katya or adding "Then Neo really woke up" at the end of The Matrix. I just felt that what Jack felt and spoke about at the end, pre-shlock-happy-ending, was truer to the 2 hours that had preceeded it. It felt like a stuck on ending to make movie goers feel happier rather than the challenging and thought provoking ending-that-should-have-been. It was American afterall*. Go ahead punk, vote me down, rant and rave, you know it is true, happy-ending obsessed monsters! ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Paul Watson wrote: "Then Neo really woke up" at the end of The Matrix. Whereas in reality, people woke up at the end of Matrix 2 and thought "What a horrible dream that was" :-D Michael But you know when the truth is told, That you can get what you want or you can just get old, Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through. When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel
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I just tried to rent it a few minutes ago, but the local store doesn't have it.:(( I had to settle for The Phantom Menace and The Fifth Element for this evening's fare.;) Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small
Roger Wright wrote: I had to settle for The Phantom Menace... ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I think I'd poke my eyes out at that point.
"Insanity runs in my family... It practically gallops." - Mortimer Brewster, in Arsenic and Old Lace
My 20 favorite films:
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Yeah, just look at the enormous difference between the 'Love Conquers All' version of Brazil vs Brazil the way it was meant to be shown. Rob Manderson Colin Davies wrote: I'm sure Americans could use more of it, and thus reduce the world supply faster. This of course would be good, because the faster we run out globally, the less chance of pollution there will be. (Talking about the price of petrol) The Soapbox, March 5 2004
Yeah, just look at the enormous difference between the 'Love Conquers All' version of Brazil vs Brazil the way it was meant to be shown. Oh dear - you mean there's a version where they chop off the final scene(s)? That's just not right! Sounds nearly as bad as what they did to Blade Runner with the "dumbed-down voice-over and happy ending" version X|
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Paul Watson wrote: Any other good movies floating about? Megan and I went and saw Secret Window[^] last night, good movie, different ending than I expected though. - Nick Parker
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Roger Wright wrote: I had to settle for The Phantom Menace... ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I think I'd poke my eyes out at that point.
"Insanity runs in my family... It practically gallops." - Mortimer Brewster, in Arsenic and Old Lace
My 20 favorite films:
http://www.ymdb.com/user_top20_view.asp?usersid=8912I quite enjoyed it, thanks...;P Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small
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It is like removing the last few pages from The Summer of Katya or adding "Then Neo really woke up" at the end of The Matrix. I just felt that what Jack felt and spoke about at the end, pre-shlock-happy-ending, was truer to the 2 hours that had preceeded it. It felt like a stuck on ending to make movie goers feel happier rather than the challenging and thought provoking ending-that-should-have-been. It was American afterall*. Go ahead punk, vote me down, rant and rave, you know it is true, happy-ending obsessed monsters! ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...
Paul Watson wrote: It was American afterall Yes, it's been getting very bad lately that movies can't leave anything to the imagination, because most movie makers and movie goers have no imagination. Creativity in the movie and music industries - and the imaginations required to create and understand these media types - have gone the way of black and white movies: you still see them from time to time, but most of the time they're considered eccentric. Even Sci-Fi has gotten really bad in this regard (the dialog is almost always crappy), and that was supposed to spur the imagination!
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Yeah, just look at the enormous difference between the 'Love Conquers All' version of Brazil vs Brazil the way it was meant to be shown. Oh dear - you mean there's a version where they chop off the final scene(s)? That's just not right! Sounds nearly as bad as what they did to Blade Runner with the "dumbed-down voice-over and happy ending" version X|
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Oh yeah - it stops just after the rescue and it has a happy ending. But the whole 'Love Conquers All' version is cut to ribbons. That scene toward the start of the movie where Sam is flying over green meadows and the office towers shoot out of the ground is cut. The Japanese warrior scenes are absent. I bought the Criterion Collection edition of the movie - it's on 3 discs. First disc is the directors cut (apparently salvaged from a print found in Europe). Second disc is a bunch of documentaries including 'The Battle for Brazil'. Third disc is the 'Love Conquers All' version. I've only watched the 3rd disc once - it's missing so much of what made the movie great. Rob Manderson Colin Davies wrote: I'm sure Americans could use more of it, and thus reduce the world supply faster. This of course would be good, because the faster we run out globally, the less chance of pollution there will be. (Talking about the price of petrol) The Soapbox, March 5 2004
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Paul Watson wrote: It was American afterall Yes, it's been getting very bad lately that movies can't leave anything to the imagination, because most movie makers and movie goers have no imagination. Creativity in the movie and music industries - and the imaginations required to create and understand these media types - have gone the way of black and white movies: you still see them from time to time, but most of the time they're considered eccentric. Even Sci-Fi has gotten really bad in this regard (the dialog is almost always crappy), and that was supposed to spur the imagination!
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Heath Stewart wrote: Even Sci-Fi has gotten really bad in this regard Gotten? And no, this isn't picking on that word :) I was a big fan of Sci-Fi once but I can honestly only think of a few movies that did the genre proud. 2001: A space odyssey. Robinson Crusoe on Mars (geeze I wish that was out on DVD). The Time Machine (the 1960 version) (actually I thought the 2002 version was pretty good too). Forbidden Planet. (Most of the original Star Trek series). The Day the Earth Stood Still. Fahrenheit 451. Most of the rest, and I include within this the Star Trek movies and the Star Wars movies, come across as work by hacks who can't even be bothered to verify simple physics. For example, the immortal line in The Fifth Element where a technician reports that the foreign body making it's way toward Earth is at a temperature of minus 4000 degrees. (of course it's set some hundreds of years into the future and it's barely possible that humans have redefined their temperature scales such that boiling water is in the way negatives :) ) It's a pity because Sci-Fi, when done well, can really make one think. It's been many years and I'm not sure I remember all the authors names, but who, having read Tom Goddard's 'The Cold Equations' could be unmoved? Fritz Leibowitz's 'Spacetime for Springers'? The author who wrote about an entire civilisation existing in a puddle of rainwater. Brian Aldiss's series set so unimaginably far into the future that the moon is stationary with respect to the earth and giant vegetable spiders spin webs twixt earth and moon? That story (The Ruum?) about a giant amoeba that digests all but the eyes and nervous system of a victim. No flowers for Algernon? Almost all of Jame's Blish's non Star Trek work (Black Easter and the Day after Judgement are my favourites - and I think he was also the author of that rainwater civilisation). Ray Bradbury's work? (If I had to select my single favourite Sci-Fi writer it'd be Ray Bradbury. He wrote so well it's almost like reading prose poetry). Hmmm I've let my youthful enthusiasms run way ahead of my point. Maybe it's time to stop writing :) Rob Manderson Colin Davies wrote: I'm sure Americans could use more of it, and thus reduce the world supply faster. This of course would be good, because the faster we run out globally, the less chance of pollution there will be. (Talking about the price of petrol) The Soapbox, March 5 2004
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Heath Stewart wrote: Even Sci-Fi has gotten really bad in this regard Gotten? And no, this isn't picking on that word :) I was a big fan of Sci-Fi once but I can honestly only think of a few movies that did the genre proud. 2001: A space odyssey. Robinson Crusoe on Mars (geeze I wish that was out on DVD). The Time Machine (the 1960 version) (actually I thought the 2002 version was pretty good too). Forbidden Planet. (Most of the original Star Trek series). The Day the Earth Stood Still. Fahrenheit 451. Most of the rest, and I include within this the Star Trek movies and the Star Wars movies, come across as work by hacks who can't even be bothered to verify simple physics. For example, the immortal line in The Fifth Element where a technician reports that the foreign body making it's way toward Earth is at a temperature of minus 4000 degrees. (of course it's set some hundreds of years into the future and it's barely possible that humans have redefined their temperature scales such that boiling water is in the way negatives :) ) It's a pity because Sci-Fi, when done well, can really make one think. It's been many years and I'm not sure I remember all the authors names, but who, having read Tom Goddard's 'The Cold Equations' could be unmoved? Fritz Leibowitz's 'Spacetime for Springers'? The author who wrote about an entire civilisation existing in a puddle of rainwater. Brian Aldiss's series set so unimaginably far into the future that the moon is stationary with respect to the earth and giant vegetable spiders spin webs twixt earth and moon? That story (The Ruum?) about a giant amoeba that digests all but the eyes and nervous system of a victim. No flowers for Algernon? Almost all of Jame's Blish's non Star Trek work (Black Easter and the Day after Judgement are my favourites - and I think he was also the author of that rainwater civilisation). Ray Bradbury's work? (If I had to select my single favourite Sci-Fi writer it'd be Ray Bradbury. He wrote so well it's almost like reading prose poetry). Hmmm I've let my youthful enthusiasms run way ahead of my point. Maybe it's time to stop writing :) Rob Manderson Colin Davies wrote: I'm sure Americans could use more of it, and thus reduce the world supply faster. This of course would be good, because the faster we run out globally, the less chance of pollution there will be. (Talking about the price of petrol) The Soapbox, March 5 2004
Rob Manderson wrote: For example, the immortal line in The Fifth Element where a technician reports that the foreign body making it's way toward Earth is at a temperature of minus 4000 degrees. Negative energy -> negative temperatures.. ;) -- Ich bin der böse Mann von Schweden.
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Heath Stewart wrote: Even Sci-Fi has gotten really bad in this regard Gotten? And no, this isn't picking on that word :) I was a big fan of Sci-Fi once but I can honestly only think of a few movies that did the genre proud. 2001: A space odyssey. Robinson Crusoe on Mars (geeze I wish that was out on DVD). The Time Machine (the 1960 version) (actually I thought the 2002 version was pretty good too). Forbidden Planet. (Most of the original Star Trek series). The Day the Earth Stood Still. Fahrenheit 451. Most of the rest, and I include within this the Star Trek movies and the Star Wars movies, come across as work by hacks who can't even be bothered to verify simple physics. For example, the immortal line in The Fifth Element where a technician reports that the foreign body making it's way toward Earth is at a temperature of minus 4000 degrees. (of course it's set some hundreds of years into the future and it's barely possible that humans have redefined their temperature scales such that boiling water is in the way negatives :) ) It's a pity because Sci-Fi, when done well, can really make one think. It's been many years and I'm not sure I remember all the authors names, but who, having read Tom Goddard's 'The Cold Equations' could be unmoved? Fritz Leibowitz's 'Spacetime for Springers'? The author who wrote about an entire civilisation existing in a puddle of rainwater. Brian Aldiss's series set so unimaginably far into the future that the moon is stationary with respect to the earth and giant vegetable spiders spin webs twixt earth and moon? That story (The Ruum?) about a giant amoeba that digests all but the eyes and nervous system of a victim. No flowers for Algernon? Almost all of Jame's Blish's non Star Trek work (Black Easter and the Day after Judgement are my favourites - and I think he was also the author of that rainwater civilisation). Ray Bradbury's work? (If I had to select my single favourite Sci-Fi writer it'd be Ray Bradbury. He wrote so well it's almost like reading prose poetry). Hmmm I've let my youthful enthusiasms run way ahead of my point. Maybe it's time to stop writing :) Rob Manderson Colin Davies wrote: I'm sure Americans could use more of it, and thus reduce the world supply faster. This of course would be good, because the faster we run out globally, the less chance of pollution there will be. (Talking about the price of petrol) The Soapbox, March 5 2004
Rob Manderson wrote: The Fifth Element I just watched it last night... Great movie, bad science.;P Rob Manderson wrote: flowers for Algernon? Superb book, and the movie was well done, too. Rob Manderson wrote: Ray Bradbury's work The Master - The Martian Chronicles miniseries airs here every few years, but if I can ever find it on DVD I'd love to make a marathon day of it, one episode after another.:-D Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small
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Paul Watson wrote: It was American afterall Yes, it's been getting very bad lately that movies can't leave anything to the imagination, because most movie makers and movie goers have no imagination. Creativity in the movie and music industries - and the imaginations required to create and understand these media types - have gone the way of black and white movies: you still see them from time to time, but most of the time they're considered eccentric. Even Sci-Fi has gotten really bad in this regard (the dialog is almost always crappy), and that was supposed to spur the imagination!
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Heath Stewart wrote: Sci-Fi has gotten really bad Huh? SciFi has always been misunderstood and badly done by the movie industry. There have been extremely rare exceptions, but only a handful. The absolute worst offender these days is the so-called SciFi Channel on satellite/cable TV. Their internal productions are invariably campy, badly cast, and pure garbage - Space 1999 was advanced compared to the garbage this outfit produces. Worse, they commit the ultimate sin of promoting the notion that horror flicks are scifi, mainly because they haven't much else in their collection to broadcast. There are many fine, creative authors whose works have been either ignored, or obscenely mangled by the movie industry, and not just in the SciFi genre. It saddens me that most people, even my friends and their kids, get their conception of SciFi and entertainment in general from movies, and never pick up a book. Books are where you can find the last remnant of creativity, and I fear that future generations will be even less inclined to read one once in a while than the current crop.:sigh: Will Build Nuclear Missile For Food - No Target Too Small