I have not had problems with this type of attitude, though my teachers don't really give a rip. On one end of the argument, I understand why they are there to, "weed aout the proggrammers" in the sense that nobody likes a bug in their programs. On the other hand, gaining experiance is the procces of making a better programmer, other than book knowelege. As far as his argument goes is pretty much frivilous in that the amount of programmers is dwindling. Microsoft is also having a shortage of programmers. I would tell him if he is there to weed out the wannabe programmers is the reason why computer programming is so popular:rolleyes:. Then again, I have no idea if this is the schools attitude our it is the teachers.