Andrew...this is a comment to you, because we all get code blindness, but the rest of us have learned a very valuable lesson from Rage, read the code brothers, be the code. I just had the urge to assume I could grab you a quick example and let you go from there. If I had read the code properly then I too would have learned somthing 8-) say la vee as people who talk foreign languages phonetically would say. Chris. Nursey