Opps, I forget to add. Websites are private operations. Under the LAW, a person has ZERO RIGHTS in a forum. Is that clear - *ZERO*! The web site owner has FULL CONTROL and 100% right to ban/accept anyone FOR ANY REASON THEY FEEL LIKE! A web site or forum is NOT, I repeat - is NOT, a public right. Of course, the standard laws still apply like libel, and such. I've had my web sites for ~15 years. I've managed internal specialized websites for some companies that I worked for. And, I help friends manage their own small business web sites. So again, I'm far from a newbie when it comes websites, the law, and so on. FWIW: I see a ton of copyright violations on websites and forums today. And, anyone that thinks that a Fortune 500 company doesn't know about the copyright violations is a fool. It's all a mater of what makes sense (and cents - as in cost :)) for a company to go after. One of my former co-worker friends is a company lawyer that is involved in exactly that type of stuff. So, just because you see someone get away with something, that doesn't mean that it's legal, proper, or allowed for other people. I figured that you might be interested in the above. __________ Joe