Sorry some thing went wacked while I was trying to replay to this.:mad: Let's try agian.:) You jumped into the wrong thread. I just recommended the totorials on this site and others that are dedicatated to programing as an addition to books recommended by others. As for Charles Petzold, I highly recommend it, since too many of us have gotten tied up in C++/OOP and forgoten the basics upon which it is all founded. C++ and MFC is great (minus the bugs) but it hides all the basic implementations ( aka. how it all works ). There are a few books on my shelf I could have sujested but they are far past what I would recommend to some one new in this area of programming. As for 'Ivor Horton's' book I have never read it, may be I'll take a look to see if it is worth may time. FYI: Most Visual C++/MFC Books are a rehash of whats in the MSDN Library. Trust in the code Luke. Yea right!