I'm sure you've seen all the numerous rants here over the years about Crystal Reports and I won't re-hash them but when it was *first* released by the original company in Vancouver Canada that initially developed it, it was a good, innovative product that was well supported, then it was sold and accountants took over in successive attempts to wring as much money from it for as little input as possible. Crystal Reports became like a teabag: fresh and tasty the first time, then each company tried to brew one more cup out of that teabag, now it's thin and watery and unpalatable. "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson