Hi Dave, Fixed it in a more convential way ... : Private Shared Function SystemTimeToDateTime(ByRef st As SYSTEMTIME) As DateTime Dim dt As DateTime Dim dtFormat As String Dim en As New CultureInfo("en-GB") dtFormat = "dd/MM/yyyy HH:mm" With st dt = DateTime.ParseExact( _ Format$(.wDay, "00") & "/" & _ Format$(.wMonth, "00") & "/" & _ Format$(.wYear - 1600) & " " & _ Format$(.wHour, "00") & ":" & _ Format$(.wMinute, "00"), dtFormat, en.DateTimeFormat) ' & ":" & _ ' Format$(.wSecond, "00"), dtFormat, en.DateTimeFormat) End With Return dt End Function Gues it is a bit less efficient, not sure how much though. Your remark about the code and the snot was that just about this problem or also about the rest of the code. If so could you give me some pointers, guess it is never too late to learn. :)) Cheers David Think, try, think, think, try, think, think, think, try, ASK, think, try, advance on step and start over...

David M J wrote: but they more or less all look the same they look the same because they doing the same task but internally they differ in thier architecture and each one has its Pros and Cons David M J wrote: so I am wondering whether this is somekind of standard feature provided by the grid or that it is realy simple to code Making grid look like third party grids is complex task MCAD

Well, you did not specify VB6 or VB.NET, so I will not give much detail. Basically the approach is: VB6 - you have to already have a placeholder control of every type you want add at runtime and add then as a control array. So you just write a single handler and enable the the save button when anyone changes. Or you could process each control in a different way if you know in advance what their array indexes will be. VB.NET Create event handlers and add them to the dynamic controls using the syntax: AddHandler AddressOf Robert

Depending on how much data is changed and how much data you have total you could do one of the following: 1. Give each table with data an extra column LastChange of type DateTime. If the column is indexed your clients can regulary ask for newly changed items. 2. Instead of marking ich item just make one field LastChange. Your clients poll this one and (if something changed) get all data. 3. Make some sort of server where your clients must log in. Let the server handle all data access to the db. This way the server gets to know all changes and can send any info he wants to all connected clients. Furthermore the clients wouldnt need to know the data layer - it would all be handled by your server.

Your are looking for the AddHandler statement: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vblr7/html/vastmAddHandlerStatement.asp For your example: AddHandler Me.menuItem3.DrawItem, AddressOf Me.OnDrawItemSec AddHandler Me.menuItem3.MeasureItem, AddressOf Me.OnMeasureItemSec

Hi, Now it works. Made a mistake in the onpaint event... Thanks for the help !! Cheers DJ Think, try, think, think, try, think, think, think, try, ASK, think, try, advance on step and start over...

In your inherited control override the protected sub OnPropertyValueChanged: Protected Overrides Sub OnPropertyValueChanged(ByVal e As System.Windows.Forms.PropertyValueChangedEventArgs) 'Put your code here to fire when the property is changed 'Make sure you call the base method you are overriding MyBase.OnPropertyValueChanged(e) End Sub In the base class (Windows.Forms.PropertyGrid) this method will simply fire the PropertyValueChanged event, by overriding the sub you can 'slip' your own code in before the event is fired. More info on this method is available on MSDN: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpref/html/frlrfsystemwindowsformspropertygridclassonpropertyvaluechangedtopic.asp[^] It is worth investigating these protected methods when you inherit from other classes. Hope this helps Tom

Dim lIndex As Long lIndex = ListBox1.Items.IndexOf("Germany") ListBox1.SelectedIndex = lIndex Many Thanks Harry