I would love to have macro-definitions in C# or Java just to break all these silly stereotypes. #define max(a,b) (a>b ? b : a) #define min(a,b) (a>b ? a : b) or #define cerr (cin) #define cout (cerr) #define cin (cout) Aaah so confusing so sweet ... ;P Greetings - Gajatko Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.