N_tro_P wrote: If only (I believe it is about 9%) of the entire government funding is coming from corporate taxes The 9% figure is close enough. Last year was 11%. I got to thinking about the 33% thing and found this page which proves your figures. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/background/numbers/revenue.cfm Then I wondered how/why it changed because the cost of government always goes up, so how did they recover the money? If you look at figure 2, it's pretty clear that they made up the difference by increasing payroll taxes steadily from the 50s up to the present. Having been an employer, I know that "payroll tax" = "employer contribution on IRS Form 941". I also know that currently, the "total" employer contribution is roughly equal (in total tax based on what I paid my employees) to the employee withholding amount. I found this info which addresses the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal\_Insurance\_Contributions\_Act\_tax The info doesn't contain any historical info about the employer contribution rates, but it clearly shows that the corporate tax has been shifted to payroll tax. So here goes... Even though they reduced "corporate" taxes, payroll tax increased. Payroll tax has almost completely replaced Corporate + Excise Tax revenue. I never made the connection before, but I now see why the politicians keep screaming "jobs!, jobs!, jobs!", they are worried about revenue. The high-paying/skilled-labor/factory work jobs are steadily evaporating and along with them the associated tax revenue stream. Computers and technology changed the game by reducing the number of people needed to do a job. The payroll tax model motivates companies to reduce the number of employees. N_tro_P wrote: Yes corporations provide jobs, but this idea that they could even offer a job without society is just silly. Yup. N_tro_P wrote: The only thing lifting taxes on the rich has done is get the rich (including big corps) richer. The rich will always get richer. Back when the tax rate was 90% the rich got richer. The rich get richer under both Democratic and Republican administrations. The rich work hard at getting richer. One of the problems with high tax rates in today's world is that the rich and a lot of companies are much more mobile than in the old days. The French found that out when they raised taxes on the rich. They started leaving the country, forcing rate cuts. In most "industrial" countries, the rich pay a large chunk of the taxes, not by percentage, but in money. Business i