Mine are about the same ranging from 7 to 11 MB. Debug versions seem to require about a little than this. You can see why seasoned hardcare programmers are reluctant to switch over to the .net languages. I've always believed that if the workload can go on the programmer to spare the end user of bloated software, slow response etc.. then it should. On the other side of the coin if you don't get with the program you will be left behind (eventually). Art