oh, sorry! Then your only option is to try and connect to some site. Say try connecting to yahoo.com port 80 and if you can connect, you are online, else you are not. Of course there is a danger that yahoo is down. so try two other sites too just to be safe. Try say, microsoft.com and then try google.com Nish p.s. sorry if this is a really stupid idea, but I see no other way. Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut