First of all, you can interface VB (and C#) with Excel, and you can find plenty of examples on how to do this. So I will not attempt to address that, since if you don't know VB you are going to be spending lots of time with that part to begin with. Now, for the PDF part. I have many, many words in my vocabulary to describe working with the PDF format. And when I am actually in the process of working with PDF, I use them all, constantly, strung together in novel creative ways. For the sake of the forum let me just summarize as "major hassle". There is an open source library that is invaluable when working with PDF's although depsite the fact that I consider it essential, working with this library can also be described as "major hassle". Although the library, and most of the documentation is for C#, you can use it in VB.NET as well. (Despite some arrogant misconceptions otherwise, C# and VB.NET are really the same thing). You'll find a lot more examples of interfacing to Excel in VB. You'll find working with the PDF library just damn difficult no matter which way you go. Assuming you do not know either VB.NET or C#, the choice is really up to you. Let me say in no uncertain terms, this project was handed off to you for GOOD reason. It could take you months to figure it all out. I strongly, strongly, strongly advise you to punt if it is at all possible. Really. Punt! Punt! Punt! If you can't punt, find a shady doctor that writes shady 'scripts and tell him you need speed and valium. Both in large quantities. You can find the PDF lib here: http://itextsharp.sourceforge.net/[^] I feel for you. :((

Try calling the TextBox.Invalidate() method, this will force the text box to be re-drawn. If that doesn't work then it may be a problem with how you are passing the value into the text box. Kev Pearman MCP

Why do you need two counters? Why not just have one counter counting the seconds? Assuming your counter variable is called counter, each time the timer fires you increment it. To get the seconds and minutes try: int seconds = counter % 60; int minutes = counter / 60; "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog

Well, it would be quite easy to remove the item using listBox1.Items.Remove(listBox1.SelectedItem) or something similar I believe. And after you have done that, why not just call a method that will rewrite your text file with the current listbox items..That would be the simplest approach in my opinion.