Good, but! Back to real life. How many tries do you have, until ATM eats your credit/debet card? Here in Europe exactly 3 times. IDK how it's overseas, but I hope it's similarly limited, too. Soooo, unless PIN is explicitly linked to a card number, I think we are generally safe, aren't we? On the other hand, I checked, and my PIN is nowhere near the first hundred thousand (I didn't look further), so I can sleep like a baby one more night. :laugh: