Ну, смотря какой функционал тебе от этого списка нужен. Если просто "мертвый" список, то я бы ограничился первым вариантом. Т.е. создал бы невидимый ричедит, через него бы вычислял высоту каждого айтема в списке, через него же рендерил в битмап в памяти сам текст айтема. Потом при отрисовке айтема просто выводил бы уже готовый битмап. Если же требуется какая-то интерактивность от списка, например, если ты хочешь, чтобы можно было бы кликнуть на линки, которые могуть быть в тексте, менять курсор, когда мышка поверх таких линков и т.п., то тут уже без безоконного ричедита обойтись будет трудно. ЗЫ: я есть тут: http://vkontakte.ru/id1216693[^] или тут http://ru-ru.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1610591135[^]

Regards, Nikolay

На самом деле, варианта у тебя два: - действительно создать скрытый рич-едит, вызывать у него RequestResize и ловить EN_REQUESTRESIZE. Вариант вполне нормальный. - если делать совсем все правильно, то в твоем случае не надо встраивать рич-едиты в лист-контрол. Тебе надо копать в сторону windowless-ричедита, внимательно изучив ITextHost/ITextServices. ЗЫ: Как жизнь вообще? Чем занимаешься? Твой логотип SWR оказался очень живуч :))

Regards, Nikolay

7 litres on average, Ford Fusion 1.4

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Another article that probably worth reading: On Ukraine, Mr Miliband should study carefully a range of reliable opinion polls showing that by a margin of about three to one, ordinary Ukrainian voters are opposed to Nato membership. This is not only because they want good relations with Russia, but because they fear being dragged into disastrous American wars in the Muslim world. Even when it comes to the wider question of alignment with the West rather than Russia, the Ukrainian majority in favour of the Western line is slim - about 53 to 47 per cent to judge by the last Ukrainian presidential election. We should have learnt by now from the ghastly examples of Bosnia and elsewhere that a narrow numerical majority is simply not enough when existential national issues are at stake. [^]

Regards, Nikolay

Oakman wrote:

No, the Kosovars were.

That's why it's not quite correct to hold NATO up an example of patience. I doubt they would be so patient if THEIR citizens were being killed by Serbs every minute, hour after hour. And I bet you know for sure that NATO would never wait in that case trying to solve the problem diplomatically.

Oakman wrote:

It certainly is when it turns out that the vast majority of their deaths came after being used as human shields.

Does it really turn out? Here is what HRW says: On the basis of available evidence it is not possible to determine positively that Yugoslav police or army troops deliberately forced civilians to group near them, nor to establish the motive for such action.

Oakman wrote:

But I am also aware of how few it is for a conflict that went on for 18 months.

Operation Allied Force began on March 24, 1999 and ended on June 9, 1999. That is about 11 weeks, not 18 months. Should I blame you for the lie, eh? So, we have more than 200 deaths in Serbia and about 300 deaths in Kosovo just in 11 weeks - still too few? By the way, since you pretend to be very informed in what was going on in Georgia, may I ask you the total number of civilian deaths caused by the Russian army actions? So that we could compare civilian death rates in Serbia and Georgia.

Oakman wrote:

I answered your last questions very specifically. To lie about it seems to be your stock in trade.

You said nothing about cluster bomb usage or choosing bridges, heating plants, TV stations and refugees columns as targets. Or you simply do not want to talk about that? And should I remind you that you still have not proven your statement that Russian tanks moved to Georgia, not South Ossetia, before August 11?

Regards, Nikolay

Oakman wrote:

After more than a year.

Were NATO soldiers or US/Britain/Germany/etc citizens under attack all that time? eh? I asked you to comment NATO actions, but you keep proving me that Serbs are bad guys instead. OK, let's assume they are pretty bad. But how does it justify bombing of bridges, heating plants or refugee columns? How the hell does it justify cluster bomb usage? How? And does it mean that it would be OK for Russia to bomb TV stations somewhere in Tbilisi?

Oakman wrote:

3/5ths of the civilian deaths occurred in Kosovar, not in Serbia!

So your point is that killing civilians in Kosovo is something different than killing them in Serbia? Well, well, well... But even so, 2/5ths of 500 is 200. Is it too few for you? Oakman (what is your name by the way?), I must admit you have a talent not to answer my questions, leading discussion away from what I ask you. Each time I ask you to prove your words (or disprove my words) with any link to independent source, you suddenly become deaf and start talking about something else or simply insult me. It is a very common behavior for one who simply has no arguments to prove his point. You try to gain the upper hand by shouting instead.

Regards, Nikolay

Oakman wrote:

Yes. There have been verified reports of tanks firing on civilian refugees.

Was it casual? Or were this tanks really ORDERED to fire refugees? Any links to documented reports? By the way, as far as I see you like to refer to HRW. Well, that's something. Let's just see what we can learn about Civilian Deaths in the NATO Air Compaign[^] from that source: ...Human Rights Watch concludes that as few as 489 and as many as 528 Yugoslav civilians were killed in the ninety separate incidents in Operation Allied Force... ...Almost half of the incidents (forty-three) resulted from attacks during daylight hours, when civilians could have been expected to be on the roads and bridges or in public buildings which may have been targeted... ...In three cases-the bombing of Serb Radio and Television headquarters in Belgrade (incident no. 30), the bombing of the "Marshal Tito" Petrovaradin (Varadinski) Bridge in Novi Sad (incident no. 2), and the bombing of the Belgrade Heating Plant (incident no. 7)-Human Rights Watch questions the legitimacy of the target... ...The attacks on the Novi Sad bridge and six other bridges in which civilian deaths occurred (Ostruznica, incident no. 37; Trstenik, incident no. 39; Nis, incident no. 51; Vladicin Han, incident no. 55; Pertate, incident no. 71; and Varvarin, incident no. 81) also were of questionable military effect. All are road bridges. Most are urban or town bridges that are not major routes of communications. Human Rights Watch questions individual target selection in the case of these bridges... ...On April 14, during daylight hours, NATO aircraft repeatedly bombed refugee movements over a twelve-mile stretch of road between Djakovica and Decane in western Kosovo, killing seventy-three civilians and injuring thirty-six-deaths Human Rights Watch could document. The attack began at 1:30 p.m. and persisted for about two hours, causing civilian deaths in numerous locations on the convoy route near the villages of Bistrazin, Gradis, Madanaj, and Meja... ...Cluster bomb use can be positively determined in seven incidents (another five are possible but unconfirmed)... ...Altogether, some ninety to 150 civilians died from cluster bomb use... Any comments on this? Should I continue quoting from the report?

Oakman wrote:

Well: the main reason I don't, is they never targeted civilians. That there were some killed, I have no doubt.

Do you really believe that the Russian troops were ordered to kill civilians in Georgia??? Give me a break!

Oakman wrote:

Just as I have no doubt that the Serbs killed thousands and thousands of Kosovars.

Like there is no doubt that hundreds and hundreds of South Ossetian civilians were killed in Tskhinvali along with a dozen of Russian peacekeepers. So what?

Oakman wrote:

Oh by the way: At the time Clinton was president. George Bush was govenor of Texas.

You are right. They both are thugs anyway. :)

Regards, Nikolay

Oakman wrote:

When I said that all we did was give the Kosovars a chance to get even, did you twist that around to mean approbation - or is it just your language problem?

Kosovars should be compared with South Ossetians. And just like Kosovars they simply try to get even with Georgians now. But have I ever said I approve it???

Oakman wrote:

I felt great sympathy for the Serbian civilians that were hit by the bombs.

Hey, don't you intentionally pretend not to understand what I am talking about? I did not ask whether you feel any sympathy for Serbs hit by NATO bombs. I did ask why the hell you do NOT blame Americans for that bombs? Why don't you say something like: "Oh, damn bloody Americans! They rolled in with overwhelming force! They killed innocent civilians there! They bombed refugees! Mr Bush is a thug! He must pay for this!" Where all this emotional loud words that you so like to use when it regards Russia?

Oakman wrote:

But, Nicolai, since you are so good at dredging up the past, I wonder if you'd like to talk about Chechnya. It appears to me that Putin is trying to pull a repeat. Would you agree? How do you feel about the Chechnyans who were killed, tortured, bombed and made homeless by the thousands? Proud of your country's behavior?

Not a problem, my fellow! I DO blame the Russian government for the war in Chechnya. I DO blame Mr Yeltsin, who was so loved by the West, for the First and most bloody Chechnya war. I DO blame Mr Putin for the Second Chechnya war. And I am NOT proud of Russia's behavior in Chechnya by any means. Still any questions?

Regards, Nikolay

OK, let's just compare points 1 and 4. In 1 you are very concerned whether NATO intervation had any practical meaning. But I see NO concern about how it was made; nothing is said about innocent victims among Serbian civilians, cluster bombs, etc. But as soon as you turn to Georgia, all this CHEAP rhetoric is coming out! Why?

Regards, Nikolay

Seems like you have one-sided concerns...

Regards, Nikolay

Oh, shit, you caugth me, stranger! Looks like it was me who voted "1" all the time. Shame on me!

Regards, Nikolay

Your words would probably worth something if only you were smart and objective enough to blame the US for similar actions. Otherwise it's simply cheap rhetoric.

Regards, Nikolay

Yeah, I remember that you have some problems with logic, so I am ready to help you understand why it's very unlikely for someone to vote within a minute after the reply was posted when you fully rely on email notifications. Even if we assume that it does not take long for the codeproject server to send a notification and for the notification itself to arrive, we also have to take into account, that typical email client checks for new mail as often as once in a few minutes, not every second. And yes, I have just asked my wife, which is originally from Moscow, and she has confirmed me that people there are normally also asleep when it's 3:00 am outside, even if there is an email notification from the codeproject waiting them in inbox.

Regards, Nikolay

My dear American friend, when it's nearly 3:00 am (local time) most people here in St. Petersburg are normally asleep, instead of refreshing the soapbox page opened in web-browser every minute inpatiently waiting for Mike's reply just in order to give him "1" vote.

Regards, Nikolay

If there was a military war, there was also an information one, and Georgia got the better of it.[^]

Regards, Nikolay

What a heart-rending reply! Please, don't go off into hysterics. Be a man. You swore recently that you can easily disprove the facts I have provided. And this is your dispoof? A very logical one I must admit. Don't bother to answer me. Everything is clear with you, no need for further "discussion". It looks like you are still living in the Cold War times, fighting commies somewhere in the Vietnamese jungles. I am afraid that this cannot be cured medically. Have a nice day.

Regards, Nikolay

Oakman wrote:

Again you seem to find the raping and execution of civilians to be "funny." I note that you suddenly seem to have stopped trying to defend the behavior of your troops and are eager to discuss problems that existed five years ago. Shall we also talk about what the Spetsnaz did in Chechnya?

Look, I'm not sure if you are really a clinical idiot or just pretending to be one. Nevertheless, I will try to explain you my point for the last time. So, please, please, stretch you brain! The brain is an amazing thing, believe me. In every military conflict (Vietnam, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Afganistan, Georgia etc.) there were innocent victims among civilians. In every military conflict, I emphasize this. And I'm pretty sure that we can find bastards who were doing war crimes in every army in the world. That's why I have provided you with a few links about the behavior of some of Americans in Iraq. And it would not be hard to find another dozen of links, if you wish. But that does not mean that we have to blame whole army for it. Is it clear? So why the hell you expect the Russian army to be more holy than the American one?

Oakman wrote:

Perhaps your government didn't allow you to watch the films and videos of Baghdad civilians celebrating their liberation. However, I assure you that all over the free world, we saw them.

Ok. I would recommend you to come to Baghdad so that you could have a chance to be greeted by Iraqies in person. But don't forget your flak jacket and M16! I will pray for you. :)

Regards, Nikolay

I would strongly recommend you to turn your brain ON, if you have one. The Russian forces entered South Ossetia on the morning of August 8, and extended their offensive into Georgia proper on Monday, August 11. The Security Council meeting ended at 2:00 a.m. on August 8, as we know. I would very appreciate if you could provide me with a link to the source where it is said that this timeline is false. Thank you in advance.

Regards, Nikolay

The funny thing is that your can learn more about the behavior of your troops[^] in Iraq from the same source. This link[^] is also worth reading. Have I heard from you that your troops were greeted everywhere in Iraq?

Regards, Nikolay