You should really be checking for the existance of the piece of data that triggered the control being created, not checking for the control itself. A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^] Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic      2006, 2007

Yep, that was it, thanks enmahdi

It was "nn" because that is what Access used as the minute placeholder in the custom format. Access probably uses it to distinguish from the month for which it uses mm. At least it is working that way. I think I might have found what I am looking for though. In VB on the properties for the textbox I am using, I changed the Format property to Custom and changed the CustomFormat property to HH:mm:ss. It works the way I want it to now. Thanks to Tom and green2go for attempting to help me. :)