rofl...You must be pulling my leg, OK, I'll bite. I was agreeing with you, just saying it differently. Didn't seem to fit with any other replies nor in direct reply to OP. Have a great evening! Drew

Interestingly, in some cultures, saying the same thing several different ways is the norm. For example, in Thailand, when you want to communicate something, it is considered impolite to be short and concise. For an American operating in that sort of culture is very frustrating since we tend to lean towards stating something one way as concisely as possible and ONLY once. This is similar to dealing with children - and sales people - who have no concept of what you are trying to explain. Getting frustrated and hurling insults at one another is fun; however, isn't always the best use of time. Unfortunately, the only way out of the situation is to suck-it-up and direct the conversation away from the point of conflict. This is hard, I hate it and get little immediate satisfaction, but I know it is the right thing to do. :mad:

Many of these ideas are in my current space. We rent an old building's second floor, about 1200 sq. ft. for five programmers/systems engineers. Each of us has a private office; however, only three offices have windows to the outside. To me, having outside natural light is extremely important because I really enjoy being outside. (I have spent many days running my laptop off my truck's inverter sitting beside the local river working with my 1m^2 fold-up table full of notebooks and drawings. It's a bit like Mark Twain's octagon work space without the walls.) The biggest drawback to the current space that would make things better is that our conference room is also the kitchen area. We do not have a curtain or bi-fold doors on the kitchen area. Having a more formal meeting space is nice when talking to new customers and making a good impression. Also, think about storage for all those little things like paper products, recycling bins, cleaning supplies, empty packaging, etc. We don't have much storage space here and it does create some inconveniences. If you work at home, you like to be outside, and you have decent views from you property, consider putting up a green house so that you have views on all sides. I haven't tried this, but I imagine that it would allow me to work outside into the winter months and in lousy weather.

Drew -- A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.