I know where you're coming from... I despise my job though most would people would love to have it. I know I can't stand working for a company, making their executives rich and having to follow all of their rules... not too mention all of the wonderful things you have to put up with, like rude co-workers and idiot managers... :(( I often dream of sitting on beach, coding away on my laptop, releasing another hit application to give me the freedom to live outside of the corporate mumbo jumbo... :cool: But then reality comes and slaps you in the face. I do know that I will not quit trying to be self-employed, and feel the same way - I want to program, not market, sell and collect. I have been looking at asynchrony.com and have just completed a new application. I was thinking about releasing it through them... they market, beta-test, bill, distribute and you get 75-90% of the net profit sent to you by check. I'm not sure yet, but that sounds nice... see what you think about it. Anyone know of any other shops like that? Stripey