Thanks be to Leppie! (can't claim i understand it quite yet but google cordebug seems to be the place to look). Again, thanks! ________________________________________ Gosh, it would be awful pleas'n, to reason out the reason, for things I can't explain. Then perhaps I'd deserve ya, and be even worthy of ya.. if I only had a brain!

:-D Heath, thank you for the great references (as usual!). ________________________________________ Gosh, it would be awful pleas'n, to reason out the reason, for things I can't explain. Then perhaps I'd deserve ya, and be even worthy of ya.. if I only had a brain!

Mazy, thanks. The question i want answered was eloquently stated re the article you sent (see below). Unfortunately there was no answer posted-- does anyone know the answer? TIA! HERE IS stantheman's question (and mine): Greetings all, I dig Agha Ali Raza’s article (Capturing the Screen Image in C#), but what I want to do is capture the image before it hits the screen. How would I do this? In essence, I would like to take a screen-shot (bitmap) of a Form *before* it ever gets to the screen. If you’re interested, - what I want to do is perform a little “graphics-magic” on the image using GDI+ - I want to “dance” the image of the Form around the screen before I present the actual Form. And I don’t know how to do this. I’ve tried overloading the Form.OnPaint method, but I just don’t seem to be getting it right. Anyone? Thanks all, - Stan Shankman http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/csCaptureScreen1.asp?msg=435733#xx435733xx ________________________________________ Gosh, it would be awful pleas'n, to reason out the reason, for things I can't explain. Then perhaps I'd deserve ya, and be even worthy of ya.. if I only had a brain!

i agree in principle with what you're saying, that's why i wrote the post. the problem is that there isn't any good local "scope" for the image, once the pictureBox gets it it should belong to the pictureBox. perhaps i should write PictureBoxEx.. (yecch!!) btw the snippet provided by Philip Fitzsimons "looks" kinda wierd but works great! if we could get EricGu to rename the keyword "using" to "noLongerUsing" the snippet would read: Image tmp; noLongerUsing (tmp = pictureBox.Image) {pictureBox.Image = aBrandNewImage;} :) ________________________________________ Gosh, it would be awful pleas'n, to reason out the reason, for things I can't explain. Then perhaps I'd deserve ya, and be even worthy of ya.. if I only had a brain!

All compilers targeting the CLR using pure managed code produce Intermediate Language, or IL. So yes, it is IL. In fact, the Managed C++ compiler is the only compiler publicly available from Microsoft that can produce native code in an assembly (known as mixed mode). But using an loop for serialization would be a poor idea. Recursion is most likely at work since for every Type that is added to the SerializationInfo, it has to be serialized, and then their Types, and so on so forth. -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.21 GCS/G/MU d- s: a- C++++ UL@ P++(+++) L+(--) E--- W+++ N++ o+ K? w++++ O- M(+) V? PS-- PE Y++ PGP++ t++@ 5 X+++ R+@ tv+ b(-)>b++ DI++++ D+ G e++>+++ h---* r+++ y+++ -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK-----

Actually, look at the thread right below this current thread! :) (http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?msg=706678&forumid=1649#xx706678xx[^]) You can also find common icons and image strips in shell32.dll, and in your Common7\Graphics subdirectory of your Visual Studio installation directory. If you use bitmaps, make sure you set the ImageList.TransparentColor before adding images, and that all the bitmaps (or the image strip) uses the same color mask (magenta is common). -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.21 GCS/G/MU d- s: a- C++++ UL@ P++(+++) L+(--) E--- W+++ N++ o+ K? w++++ O- M(+) V? PS-- PE Y++ PGP++ t++@ 5 X+++ R+@ tv+ b(-)>b++ DI++++ D+ G e++>+++ h---* r+++ y+++ -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK-----

You could just type everything manually. Using the designers isn't magic - they generate code. Instead of using the designer - just type it yourself. Write a class with your menus, instantiate it, and assign that as the menu for your application. -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.21 GCS/G/MU d- s: a- C++++ UL@ P++(+++) L+(--) E--- W+++ N++ o+ K? w++++ O- M(+) V? PS-- PE Y++ PGP++ t++@ 5 X+++ R+@ tv+ b(-)>b++ DI++++ D+ G e++>+++ h---* r+++ y+++ -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK-----