The Wonder of Shari'a
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Held hostage? A soldier in Iraq isn't much more likely to be killed there than in Washington D.C.
You could change that by a factor of 2000. Two words: Gun control. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
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kgaddy wrote:
Looks like the invasion of Afghanistan stoped a lot of mistreatment of women, so maybe yes, it will.
:laugh: There are 138.000 american soldiers virtually hostage to the Shia majority in Iraq and you talk about extinguishing fire with gasoline. As Harry Callahan (Clint Eastwood) in Sudden Impact[^]: "Go ahead, make my day!". Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970) Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles. George Jean Nathan (1882 - 1958) Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784)
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You could change that by a factor of 2000. Two words: Gun control. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
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To be honest, I would welcome a subtle attempt of getting rid of the Iranian PM, who does not necessarily have to survive. As long as this attempt does not include deliberately drugged US pilots (as in an incident of friendly fire on an canadian convoy or another story on the killing of 60 serbian civilians by an apache), trigger-happyness (as in the shelling of acredited journalists in a hotel in bagdad), uneducated morons (gwb) or chemical warfare (WP attacks on iraqi guerilla mixed in with civilians, accidentally covered by an italian news team). In my humble opinion, the soldiers serving in the US military forced to pay for an education should have a right to get their education first. That might save a few thousand civilians in the next "war on terror". Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
Sebastian Schneider wrote:
would welcome a subtle attempt
I love it. Tell me your idea of a "subtle" way to remove Iranian PM. Maybe if we just talked to him? no that did't work. Maybe he just needs a big hug. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Hmmm, I would assume that with Iran the strategy would be different. Nuclear weapons have gotta be at the top of our list of options, don't you think?
I would love to just see a strike that would take out the nuclear capabilities and spare the rest of the country a war. But, I think not doing anything is a very bad idea. That is just what he is expecting. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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read again what i have written above!
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How come gun control never works? I guess criminals don't really think much of laws. Oh yea, I guess thats why they're criminals. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
Well, Germany has approx. 1/3 of the population the US has. In the US, accidents included, there are over 11000 death by firearms. In Germany, there are around 200 each year. So, I guess, you could say that gun-control works alright. Or, to put it more offensively, gun control reduces the deaths by firearm by a factor of 20. And why? Because it is much harder and more expensive to get a firearm here. Even for the criminals. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
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You could change that by a factor of 2000. Two words: Gun control. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
In Texas, "gun control" is hitting what you aim at. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Well, Germany has approx. 1/3 of the population the US has. In the US, accidents included, there are over 11000 death by firearms. In Germany, there are around 200 each year. So, I guess, you could say that gun-control works alright. Or, to put it more offensively, gun control reduces the deaths by firearm by a factor of 20. And why? Because it is much harder and more expensive to get a firearm here. Even for the criminals. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
So what you're saying is gun control doesn't work any better in Germany than it does in the US. Tell me - what good is a law going to do against people who don't generally obey the law to begin with. Oh wait, I know, you're just a little slow... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Sebastian Schneider wrote:
would welcome a subtle attempt
I love it. Tell me your idea of a "subtle" way to remove Iranian PM. Maybe if we just talked to him? no that did't work. Maybe he just needs a big hug. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
Maybe if we just talked to him? no that did't work.
How about we make him an offer he can't refuse, "Here's $50 million, now resign, leave the country and let X take over, or we will hunt you down, and kill you and your family." The invasion and continued occupation of Iraq has proven to be very risky and wasteful (in terms of lives, infrastructure, and costs). Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out. We would have returned home victorious (as true liberators, not occupiers), and with a lot less casualties on all sides. Alvaro
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kgaddy wrote:
Maybe if we just talked to him? no that did't work.
How about we make him an offer he can't refuse, "Here's $50 million, now resign, leave the country and let X take over, or we will hunt you down, and kill you and your family." The invasion and continued occupation of Iraq has proven to be very risky and wasteful (in terms of lives, infrastructure, and costs). Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out. We would have returned home victorious (as true liberators, not occupiers), and with a lot less casualties on all sides. Alvaro
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out
What do you think is going on right now? You can't just "install an interim government" without some attempt to making it stable. And you can't expect people with little practical experience in self-governing to just magically have a functioning government in a few months or whatever timeframe would suit you. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists. "In August 2004, Iran’s Islamic penal system sentenced a 16-year-old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, to death after a sham trial, in which she was accused of committing “acts incompatible with chastity”." "The teenage victim had no access to a lawyer at any stage and efforts by her family to retain one were to no avail. Atefeh personally defended herself and told the religious judge that he should punish those who force women into adultery, not the victims. She was eventually hanged in public in the northern town of Neka." http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5183 My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists. "In August 2004, Iran’s Islamic penal system sentenced a 16-year-old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, to death after a sham trial, in which she was accused of committing “acts incompatible with chastity”." "The teenage victim had no access to a lawyer at any stage and efforts by her family to retain one were to no avail. Atefeh personally defended herself and told the religious judge that he should punish those who force women into adultery, not the victims. She was eventually hanged in public in the northern town of Neka."
Very sad. I wonder how people let this kind of thing happen in the 21st century. Are people too afraid to stand up and be counted? Or are they happy with this kind of "justice"? All countries have their shameful moments when it comes to "justice" but this kind of thing makes me angry because there is so little I can do about it. And what makes me sadder still, is that you got voted down for posting it. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law?
no you have not read it and you reply clearly supports my claim,read again and explain me what you get from my reply,you have 20 mins to reply me
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kgaddy wrote:
Maybe if we just talked to him? no that did't work.
How about we make him an offer he can't refuse, "Here's $50 million, now resign, leave the country and let X take over, or we will hunt you down, and kill you and your family." The invasion and continued occupation of Iraq has proven to be very risky and wasteful (in terms of lives, infrastructure, and costs). Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out. We would have returned home victorious (as true liberators, not occupiers), and with a lot less casualties on all sides. Alvaro
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
How about we make him an offer he can't refuse, "Here's $50 million, now resign, leave the country and let X take over, or we will hunt you down, and kill you and your family."
Well I really wound'nt want to reward him with money for being a jerk. It might give other leaders a bad idea.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
leave the country and let X take over,
If we did that then everyone would say it was just a puppet goverment of the US, right?
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
The invasion and continued occupation of Iraq has proven to be very risky and wasteful (in terms of lives, infrastructure, and costs).
I think this remains to be seen. Costly yes, but not wasteful. Time will only tell.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out.
Exactly what we did. But we are going to pull out when the job is complete, otherwise it surly would be a waste. Why bother.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
We would have returned home victorious (as true liberators, not occupiers)
We are not occupiers. There is a plan to leave, it's just that we are not going to say publicly when that date is becase the terrorist would just sit back and wait for that date. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law?
OT,i wonder why people give vote to such response,i mean what you learnt from this reply that they voted him and gave 1 point,totally lame. this was OT and has nothing to do with orignal post,so thread closed from my side
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kgaddy wrote:
I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law?
no you have not read it and you reply clearly supports my claim,read again and explain me what you get from my reply,you have 20 mins to reply me
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you have 20 mins to reply me
or what? I am asking you separately from your other post. Do you support Sharia law? Take your time..... My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Well, Germany has approx. 1/3 of the population the US has. In the US, accidents included, there are over 11000 death by firearms. In Germany, there are around 200 each year. So, I guess, you could say that gun-control works alright. Or, to put it more offensively, gun control reduces the deaths by firearm by a factor of 20. And why? Because it is much harder and more expensive to get a firearm here. Even for the criminals. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
Sebastian Schneider wrote:
And why? Because it is much harder and more expensive to get a firearm here. Even for the criminals.
But they do get them, and there are killing by firearms in Germany. And how many were not criminals? Poor bastards they killed never had a chance to defend themselves. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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kgaddy wrote:
Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists. "In August 2004, Iran’s Islamic penal system sentenced a 16-year-old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, to death after a sham trial, in which she was accused of committing “acts incompatible with chastity”." "The teenage victim had no access to a lawyer at any stage and efforts by her family to retain one were to no avail. Atefeh personally defended herself and told the religious judge that he should punish those who force women into adultery, not the victims. She was eventually hanged in public in the northern town of Neka."
Very sad. I wonder how people let this kind of thing happen in the 21st century. Are people too afraid to stand up and be counted? Or are they happy with this kind of "justice"? All countries have their shameful moments when it comes to "justice" but this kind of thing makes me angry because there is so little I can do about it. And what makes me sadder still, is that you got voted down for posting it. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
Very sad. I wonder how people let this kind of thing happen in the 21st century. Are people too afraid to stand up and be counted? Or are they happy with this kind of "justice"?
7th century mentality.
Michael P Butler wrote:
And what makes me sadder still, is that you got voted down for posting it.
Some do not like it pointed out. Notice that all I did was link to the article? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" -- modified at 17:03 Thursday 12th January, 2006
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you have 20 mins to reply me
or what? I am asking you separately from your other post. Do you support Sharia law? Take your time..... My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
sigh, i tried my best that you get hint yourself but you are such a ... nevermid lets recap things: kgady:came up with an article about a girl and associated it with shariyah and claimed this is shariyah ann-:this is truly sick adnan: this is truly not shariyah. kgaddy:So are you going to try to paint sharia in a good light???? I would love to see this. adnan:read again what i have written above kgaddy:I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law? adnan: read again [something like tht i replied] kgaddy: I am asking you separately from your other post. Do you support Sharia law? so decide yourselft and leave upto reader that where am i saying that it is shariah and it should be stopped that you asked m a question like "I support it or not" thatswhy I said, READ AGAIN,you re given infinite time to understand what am i trying to convey you,its not a difficult puzzle
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sigh, i tried my best that you get hint yourself but you are such a ... nevermid lets recap things: kgady:came up with an article about a girl and associated it with shariyah and claimed this is shariyah ann-:this is truly sick adnan: this is truly not shariyah. kgaddy:So are you going to try to paint sharia in a good light???? I would love to see this. adnan:read again what i have written above kgaddy:I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law? adnan: read again [something like tht i replied] kgaddy: I am asking you separately from your other post. Do you support Sharia law? so decide yourselft and leave upto reader that where am i saying that it is shariah and it should be stopped that you asked m a question like "I support it or not" thatswhy I said, READ AGAIN,you re given infinite time to understand what am i trying to convey you,its not a difficult puzzle
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
adnan: this is truly not shariyah.
I am supposed to get that you do not support sharia law from that??? All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
