The Wonder of Shari'a
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kgaddy wrote:
Maybe if we just talked to him? no that did't work.
How about we make him an offer he can't refuse, "Here's $50 million, now resign, leave the country and let X take over, or we will hunt you down, and kill you and your family." The invasion and continued occupation of Iraq has proven to be very risky and wasteful (in terms of lives, infrastructure, and costs). Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out. We would have returned home victorious (as true liberators, not occupiers), and with a lot less casualties on all sides. Alvaro
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out
What do you think is going on right now? You can't just "install an interim government" without some attempt to making it stable. And you can't expect people with little practical experience in self-governing to just magically have a functioning government in a few months or whatever timeframe would suit you. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists. "In August 2004, Iran’s Islamic penal system sentenced a 16-year-old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, to death after a sham trial, in which she was accused of committing “acts incompatible with chastity”." "The teenage victim had no access to a lawyer at any stage and efforts by her family to retain one were to no avail. Atefeh personally defended herself and told the religious judge that he should punish those who force women into adultery, not the victims. She was eventually hanged in public in the northern town of Neka." http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5183 My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists. "In August 2004, Iran’s Islamic penal system sentenced a 16-year-old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, to death after a sham trial, in which she was accused of committing “acts incompatible with chastity”." "The teenage victim had no access to a lawyer at any stage and efforts by her family to retain one were to no avail. Atefeh personally defended herself and told the religious judge that he should punish those who force women into adultery, not the victims. She was eventually hanged in public in the northern town of Neka."
Very sad. I wonder how people let this kind of thing happen in the 21st century. Are people too afraid to stand up and be counted? Or are they happy with this kind of "justice"? All countries have their shameful moments when it comes to "justice" but this kind of thing makes me angry because there is so little I can do about it. And what makes me sadder still, is that you got voted down for posting it. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law?
no you have not read it and you reply clearly supports my claim,read again and explain me what you get from my reply,you have 20 mins to reply me
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kgaddy wrote:
Maybe if we just talked to him? no that did't work.
How about we make him an offer he can't refuse, "Here's $50 million, now resign, leave the country and let X take over, or we will hunt you down, and kill you and your family." The invasion and continued occupation of Iraq has proven to be very risky and wasteful (in terms of lives, infrastructure, and costs). Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out. We would have returned home victorious (as true liberators, not occupiers), and with a lot less casualties on all sides. Alvaro
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
How about we make him an offer he can't refuse, "Here's $50 million, now resign, leave the country and let X take over, or we will hunt you down, and kill you and your family."
Well I really wound'nt want to reward him with money for being a jerk. It might give other leaders a bad idea.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
leave the country and let X take over,
If we did that then everyone would say it was just a puppet goverment of the US, right?
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
The invasion and continued occupation of Iraq has proven to be very risky and wasteful (in terms of lives, infrastructure, and costs).
I think this remains to be seen. Costly yes, but not wasteful. Time will only tell.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out.
Exactly what we did. But we are going to pull out when the job is complete, otherwise it surly would be a waste. Why bother.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
We would have returned home victorious (as true liberators, not occupiers)
We are not occupiers. There is a plan to leave, it's just that we are not going to say publicly when that date is becase the terrorist would just sit back and wait for that date. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law?
OT,i wonder why people give vote to such response,i mean what you learnt from this reply that they voted him and gave 1 point,totally lame. this was OT and has nothing to do with orignal post,so thread closed from my side
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kgaddy wrote:
I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law?
no you have not read it and you reply clearly supports my claim,read again and explain me what you get from my reply,you have 20 mins to reply me
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you have 20 mins to reply me
or what? I am asking you separately from your other post. Do you support Sharia law? Take your time..... My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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Well, Germany has approx. 1/3 of the population the US has. In the US, accidents included, there are over 11000 death by firearms. In Germany, there are around 200 each year. So, I guess, you could say that gun-control works alright. Or, to put it more offensively, gun control reduces the deaths by firearm by a factor of 20. And why? Because it is much harder and more expensive to get a firearm here. Even for the criminals. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.
Sebastian Schneider wrote:
And why? Because it is much harder and more expensive to get a firearm here. Even for the criminals.
But they do get them, and there are killing by firearms in Germany. And how many were not criminals? Poor bastards they killed never had a chance to defend themselves. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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kgaddy wrote:
Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists. "In August 2004, Iran’s Islamic penal system sentenced a 16-year-old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, to death after a sham trial, in which she was accused of committing “acts incompatible with chastity”." "The teenage victim had no access to a lawyer at any stage and efforts by her family to retain one were to no avail. Atefeh personally defended herself and told the religious judge that he should punish those who force women into adultery, not the victims. She was eventually hanged in public in the northern town of Neka."
Very sad. I wonder how people let this kind of thing happen in the 21st century. Are people too afraid to stand up and be counted? Or are they happy with this kind of "justice"? All countries have their shameful moments when it comes to "justice" but this kind of thing makes me angry because there is so little I can do about it. And what makes me sadder still, is that you got voted down for posting it. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote:
Very sad. I wonder how people let this kind of thing happen in the 21st century. Are people too afraid to stand up and be counted? Or are they happy with this kind of "justice"?
7th century mentality.
Michael P Butler wrote:
And what makes me sadder still, is that you got voted down for posting it.
Some do not like it pointed out. Notice that all I did was link to the article? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" -- modified at 17:03 Thursday 12th January, 2006
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you have 20 mins to reply me
or what? I am asking you separately from your other post. Do you support Sharia law? Take your time..... My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
sigh, i tried my best that you get hint yourself but you are such a ... nevermid lets recap things: kgady:came up with an article about a girl and associated it with shariyah and claimed this is shariyah ann-:this is truly sick adnan: this is truly not shariyah. kgaddy:So are you going to try to paint sharia in a good light???? I would love to see this. adnan:read again what i have written above kgaddy:I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law? adnan: read again [something like tht i replied] kgaddy: I am asking you separately from your other post. Do you support Sharia law? so decide yourselft and leave upto reader that where am i saying that it is shariah and it should be stopped that you asked m a question like "I support it or not" thatswhy I said, READ AGAIN,you re given infinite time to understand what am i trying to convey you,its not a difficult puzzle
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sigh, i tried my best that you get hint yourself but you are such a ... nevermid lets recap things: kgady:came up with an article about a girl and associated it with shariyah and claimed this is shariyah ann-:this is truly sick adnan: this is truly not shariyah. kgaddy:So are you going to try to paint sharia in a good light???? I would love to see this. adnan:read again what i have written above kgaddy:I did. Tell me, are you for or against Sharia law? adnan: read again [something like tht i replied] kgaddy: I am asking you separately from your other post. Do you support Sharia law? so decide yourselft and leave upto reader that where am i saying that it is shariah and it should be stopped that you asked m a question like "I support it or not" thatswhy I said, READ AGAIN,you re given infinite time to understand what am i trying to convey you,its not a difficult puzzle
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
adnan: this is truly not shariyah.
I am supposed to get that you do not support sharia law from that??? All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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kgaddy wrote:
Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists. "In August 2004, Iran’s Islamic penal system sentenced a 16-year-old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, to death after a sham trial, in which she was accused of committing “acts incompatible with chastity”." "The teenage victim had no access to a lawyer at any stage and efforts by her family to retain one were to no avail. Atefeh personally defended herself and told the religious judge that he should punish those who force women into adultery, not the victims. She was eventually hanged in public in the northern town of Neka."
Very sad. I wonder how people let this kind of thing happen in the 21st century. Are people too afraid to stand up and be counted? Or are they happy with this kind of "justice"? All countries have their shameful moments when it comes to "justice" but this kind of thing makes me angry because there is so little I can do about it. And what makes me sadder still, is that you got voted down for posting it. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
kgaddy has a tendency to find the flimsiest of sites that report the weirdest of events, then extrapolates that to all things Islam. My initial reaction is to assume the report itself is false, until I can find supporting evidence.
Quran Lectures (updated 1/3/06) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
adnan: this is truly not shariyah.
I am supposed to get that you do not support sharia law from that??? All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia.
Let me guess, your shocked...
Quran Lectures (updated 1/3/06) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
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kgaddy wrote:
All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia.
Let me guess, your shocked...
Quran Lectures (updated 1/3/06) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
adnan: this is truly not shariyah.
I am supposed to get that you do not support sharia law from that??? All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
I am supposed to get that you do not support sharia law from that???
as i mentioned this is not shiryah
kgaddy wrote:
All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia.
my son,when did i deny it?
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kgaddy wrote:
I am supposed to get that you do not support sharia law from that???
as i mentioned this is not shiryah
kgaddy wrote:
All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia.
my son,when did i deny it?
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
my son,when did i deny it?
I am in now way related to you. I think your having a hard time he so I will explain. All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia. Ok, fine. Now lets move on.... DO YOU SUPPORT SHARIA LAW? Is that slow enough? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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kgaddy has a tendency to find the flimsiest of sites that report the weirdest of events, then extrapolates that to all things Islam. My initial reaction is to assume the report itself is false, until I can find supporting evidence.
Quran Lectures (updated 1/3/06) "They are MUSLIM. It does not matter how you split it up: all msulims (so they say) see every other muslim as a brother, regardless of origin or nationality." -legalAlien. Alhamdullah for the blessing of Islam
A.A. wrote:
My initial reaction is to assume the report itself is false, until I can find supporting evidence.
Typical. I'm sure that such an open society like Iran will be glad to tell you exactly what's going on. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking" -- modified at 17:53 Thursday 12th January, 2006
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Perhaps a more practical approach would have been to invade, find and kill Saddam and his followers, install an interim government, and pull out
What do you think is going on right now? You can't just "install an interim government" without some attempt to making it stable. And you can't expect people with little practical experience in self-governing to just magically have a functioning government in a few months or whatever timeframe would suit you. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wrightbrianwelsch wrote:
What do you think is going on right now?
Suicide bombers, almost on a daily basis.
brianwelsch wrote:
You can't just "install an interim government" without some attempt to making it stable. And you can't expect people with little practical experience in self-governing to just magically have a functioning government in a few months or whatever timeframe would suit you.
I agree, but that's what experts are for. We're supposed to be experts in democracy and nation building, aren't we? So bring in the experts and have them train the Iraqis in getting their nation going. I don't see why we need a 100,000+ armed presense for an indefinite period of time. It just seems to aggravate the situation. Regards, Alvaro
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
my son,when did i deny it?
I am in now way related to you. I think your having a hard time he so I will explain. All you said was hanging a girl from be raped was not sharia. Ok, fine. Now lets move on.... DO YOU SUPPORT SHARIA LAW? Is that slow enough? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
kgaddy wrote:
I am in now way related to you. I think your having a hard time he so I will explain.
i am nt having hard time but you were having difficulty:D
kgaddy wrote:
DO YOU SUPPORT SHARIA LAW?
Before i answer you,tell em what you know about Shariyah law and my question is very legitimate here ,cos if some guy asks me about Methods in context of OOP and have no idea about *function/proc* at all then i cant explain him,my analogy is not so good i know but it does explain my point.
kgaddy wrote:
Is that slow enough?
its not bout slow,its all about how much you grasp
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brianwelsch wrote:
What do you think is going on right now?
Suicide bombers, almost on a daily basis.
brianwelsch wrote:
You can't just "install an interim government" without some attempt to making it stable. And you can't expect people with little practical experience in self-governing to just magically have a functioning government in a few months or whatever timeframe would suit you.
I agree, but that's what experts are for. We're supposed to be experts in democracy and nation building, aren't we? So bring in the experts and have them train the Iraqis in getting their nation going. I don't see why we need a 100,000+ armed presense for an indefinite period of time. It just seems to aggravate the situation. Regards, Alvaro
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
So bring in the experts and have them train the Iraqis in getting their nation going.
Again, That's what is happening now.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
I don't see why we need a 100,000+ armed presense for an indefinite period of time.
That why you are a programmer, and we have other people, like generals who know a lot more about this stuff than you or I. What would your response be to a person who said to you "Why are you charging me so much? It's just a webpage." You would probaly try to explain that there is much more involved than just creating buch of pages for a website. Like creating databases, tables, sprocs. Creating your business layer, getting the site running on a box. ect. I other words, you or I are not trained to know how many troops are needed. Lets leave that to the guys getting the job done. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"
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kgaddy wrote:
I am in now way related to you. I think your having a hard time he so I will explain.
i am nt having hard time but you were having difficulty:D
kgaddy wrote:
DO YOU SUPPORT SHARIA LAW?
Before i answer you,tell em what you know about Shariyah law and my question is very legitimate here ,cos if some guy asks me about Methods in context of OOP and have no idea about *function/proc* at all then i cant explain him,my analogy is not so good i know but it does explain my point.
kgaddy wrote:
Is that slow enough?
its not bout slow,its all about how much you grasp
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Before i answer you
"Sharia (Arabic: شريعة; also Sharī'ah, Shari'a, Shariah or Syariah) is the Arabic word for Islamic law, also known as the Law of Allah. Islam classically draws no distinction between religious, and secular life. Hence Sharia covers not only religious rituals, but many aspects of day-to-day life, politics, economics, banking, business or contract law, and social issues." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia You never going to answer me. You and I both know it. Just tell me. Do you support a nation having Sharia Law? After all, it is from the koran, striaght from the words of Allah. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"