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  • P Paul Conrad

    Hello All, I saw on Yahoo that the US Supreme Court will not hear on the ruling about Blackberry. Could anyone fill me in on the details as to what all of this is about, and would any development with Blackberry be unwise due to the ruling? Thanks, Paul

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    bevpet
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    Too much $$$ involved for too many companies. I wouldn't worry about it too much (i hope..). At the end they'll "make a deal" as they did in the past.

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      Too much $$$ involved for too many companies. I wouldn't worry about it too much (i hope..). At the end they'll "make a deal" as they did in the past.

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      Paul Conrad
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      I was wondering if this is something that will just blow by with some deal that makes everyone happy :) Paul C.

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      • P Paul Conrad

        Hello All, I saw on Yahoo that the US Supreme Court will not hear on the ruling about Blackberry. Could anyone fill me in on the details as to what all of this is about, and would any development with Blackberry be unwise due to the ruling? Thanks, Paul

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        The appeals court scaled back the initial ruling, but still concluded that RIM infringed on NTP patents. RIM and NTP had reached a tentative $450 million settlement on the dispute in March, but the deal fell apart in June. RIM wants the lower court to enforce the agreement. NTP has asked the trial judge in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia to move ahead with the injunction. It has said an injunction would not affect BlackBerry products used by U.S. federal, state, or local governments. "As a contingency, RIM has also been preparing software workaround designs which it intends to implement if necessary to maintain the operation of BlackBerry services in the United States" -- modified at 12:50 Monday 23rd January, 2006

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          I was wondering if this is something that will just blow by with some deal that makes everyone happy :) Paul C.

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          bevpet
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          more that likely.. seems to be the greed game coming into play now, they had a deal (see my next posting) and that was trashed later (abiet RIM's stock price went thru the roof after that announcement....) also, so they shut down the sales in the USA.... "It has said an injunction would not affect BlackBerry products used by U.S. federal, state, or local governments." if i remember, the gov was the biggest users of the device in the states...

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            Too much $$$ involved for too many companies. I wouldn't worry about it too much (i hope..). At the end they'll "make a deal" as they did in the past.

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            peterchen
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            bevpet wrote:

            Too much $$$ involved for too many companies.

            And who pays them?


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              bevpet wrote:

              Too much $$$ involved for too many companies.

              And who pays them?


              Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
              boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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              Paul Watson
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              Crackberry addicts. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                Crackberry addicts. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                David Cunningham
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                Paul Watson wrote:

                Crackberry addicts.

                :sigh: David quietly hides his shiny new 8700r[^] so Paul can't see it. David

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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  Crackberry addicts.

                  :sigh: David quietly hides his shiny new 8700r[^] so Paul can't see it. David

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                  Gary Kirkham
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                  :cool: I have had my 8700c for about a week. My boss calls it an electronic leash. Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    Crackberry addicts.

                    :sigh: David quietly hides his shiny new 8700r[^] so Paul can't see it. David

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Oh that is so nice. I love them, just never had the chance to own my own back in South Africa (they only recently introduced them there but at obscene prices.) Once this storm blows over I'll be looking into getting one here in Ireland. I'll finally be able to call myself a Crackberry addict. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                      Oh that is so nice. I love them, just never had the chance to own my own back in South Africa (they only recently introduced them there but at obscene prices.) Once this storm blows over I'll be looking into getting one here in Ireland. I'll finally be able to call myself a Crackberry addict. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                      Paul Conrad
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                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      I'll finally be able to call myself a Crackberry addict

                      Same here. I just wanted to wait until all of this legal situation airs out because I'd hate to get something cool like Blackberry and then have the courts say that I cannot have one because of patent crap. As far as the legal matters with RIM and NTP, I have to say: "Can't we all just get along?" - Rodney King Why can't they just work out a deal that is beneficial to both sides and the consumers? Paul C.

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                        The appeals court scaled back the initial ruling, but still concluded that RIM infringed on NTP patents. RIM and NTP had reached a tentative $450 million settlement on the dispute in March, but the deal fell apart in June. RIM wants the lower court to enforce the agreement. NTP has asked the trial judge in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia to move ahead with the injunction. It has said an injunction would not affect BlackBerry products used by U.S. federal, state, or local governments. "As a contingency, RIM has also been preparing software workaround designs which it intends to implement if necessary to maintain the operation of BlackBerry services in the United States" -- modified at 12:50 Monday 23rd January, 2006

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                        Paul Conrad
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                        bevpet wrote:

                        "As a contingency, RIM has also been preparing software workaround designs which it intends to implement if necessary to maintain the operation of BlackBerry services in the United States"

                        Will this be able to work or will NTP still pursue legal action against the "software workaround?" Paul C.

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                          Some crackerjack patent sitter in Canada Virginia is forcing Crackberry (Canada) to go out of business over some unimplemented patent (Crackberry made a success and now crackerjack wants free money.) Details(ish) here[^]. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN! -- modified at 4:00 Tuesday 24th January, 2006

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                          cmk
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                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          Some crackerjack patent sitter in Canada is forcing Crackberry to go out of business

                          Patent sitter is in Virginia, not Canada. "Research in Motion (RIM), the Canadian company that makes the device (Blackberry), ... had infringed the rights of NTP, a tiny patent-holding company based in Virginia." ...cmk Save the whales - collect the whole set

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                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            Some crackerjack patent sitter in Canada is forcing Crackberry to go out of business

                            Patent sitter is in Virginia, not Canada. "Research in Motion (RIM), the Canadian company that makes the device (Blackberry), ... had infringed the rights of NTP, a tiny patent-holding company based in Virginia." ...cmk Save the whales - collect the whole set

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                            Paul Watson
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                            :laugh: I'm a crackerjack for getting that wrong. Thanks, corrected. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                            • P Paul Conrad

                              Hello All, I saw on Yahoo that the US Supreme Court will not hear on the ruling about Blackberry. Could anyone fill me in on the details as to what all of this is about, and would any development with Blackberry be unwise due to the ruling? Thanks, Paul

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              Which ruling? Is it the class action of "People who are annoyed with people who use their Blackberry while you are trying to talk to them vs RIM", or "People who are annoyed with people who pull out their blackberry and start using it in the middle of meetings vs RIM", or "People who just plain can't stand Blackberrys vs RIM"? cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                Which ruling? Is it the class action of "People who are annoyed with people who use their Blackberry while you are trying to talk to them vs RIM", or "People who are annoyed with people who pull out their blackberry and start using it in the middle of meetings vs RIM", or "People who just plain can't stand Blackberrys vs RIM"? cheers, Chris Maunder

                                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                Paul Conrad
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                                Chris, I was just curious about what the whole Blackberry issue has been about. A while back I thought of writing software for it and from time to time would see about it in the news. I think all of the threads from this post can give anyone who hasn't heard much about it an idea of what it is about. Paul

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