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code-frog wrote:
In an industry largely dominated by men and claiming to be technical it amazes me how quickly genuine efforts get debased into cup sizes, sexual attraction and other HR related infractions.
Here's something related to this :- Booth babes and the role of women in computer science[^] Regards, Nish
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Sad! Sad! But thank you for the link. I agree with the author of that post. I'll never forget one girl I went to school with. She was gorgeous, she knew it, she didn't care and she loved blowing the curve. I'm not talking her bust line either. For her the curves meant the highest scores in class. She got them and pretty much sent a "screw yourself" message to all the mail ego's (and there were plenty) in school. I got to know her and she was a fantastic person. She just wanted work in computers. Cool for sure.:cool:
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Marc this isn't directed at you alone. More at all the replies I've seen so far.
I think it's funny to me that we assume it's a marketing gimmick and don't ponder the possibility that she was in fact the best candidate for the task. In an industry largely dominated by men and claiming to be technical it amazes me how quickly genuine efforts get debased into cup sizes, sexual attraction and other HR related infractions.
I would venture to guess she was the best candidate. I would also venture to guess she has to put slightly more work into this than just a phone call or two while she files papers and gets coffee for all the men getting real work done. As their has already been much discussion about her name, a picture seemed fitting to me as Jordon could be male or female. Additionally, this is the first distribution by CP where it seems to be uniquely individual. The newsletters seem to be a summary of site activity and less a preparation.
When I compare it with other columns and editorials in my local paper a photo of the editor or columnist is always included. I think Jordon's work and delivery is more consistent with journalism standards than it ever was a marketing thing.
Do you really think Maunder sat there and said, "Yeah, let's appeal to their libido." I just don't see Chris or David doing such a thing at all. Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt it. It follows some pretty well established trends in journalism.
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This gets my five. Just because she's not dog ugly doesn't mean she was not the best candidate, and it's incredibly sexist for anyone to suggest otherwise. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Yeah... Thanks for that Shog. David
Well, now we know - you'd probably be fine with long hair, but keep clear of pink scarves...
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Marc this isn't directed at you alone. More at all the replies I've seen so far.
I think it's funny to me that we assume it's a marketing gimmick and don't ponder the possibility that she was in fact the best candidate for the task. In an industry largely dominated by men and claiming to be technical it amazes me how quickly genuine efforts get debased into cup sizes, sexual attraction and other HR related infractions.
I would venture to guess she was the best candidate. I would also venture to guess she has to put slightly more work into this than just a phone call or two while she files papers and gets coffee for all the men getting real work done. As their has already been much discussion about her name, a picture seemed fitting to me as Jordon could be male or female. Additionally, this is the first distribution by CP where it seems to be uniquely individual. The newsletters seem to be a summary of site activity and less a preparation.
When I compare it with other columns and editorials in my local paper a photo of the editor or columnist is always included. I think Jordon's work and delivery is more consistent with journalism standards than it ever was a marketing thing.
Do you really think Maunder sat there and said, "Yeah, let's appeal to their libido." I just don't see Chris or David doing such a thing at all. Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt it. It follows some pretty well established trends in journalism.
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Thanks for that Rex. Jordon is in fact very qualified and has long standing relationships with scads of people in the software development world at places Microsoft, Google, Developmentor, Wintellect and on, and on. Chris and I have known Jordon for years as part of the software development community and I think she's the ideal person to run CodeProject's Developer News service. Give it some time guys, I think it will be great. David -- modified at 16:27 Thursday 26th January, 2006
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Yeah... Thanks for that Shog. David
Yeah, think you'll be dodging that bullet for quite a while now. :laugh: I'm beginning to think there's an Austin Powers like aura with Shog. It's not "Shag me baby." nor is it "You've been shagged." I think it's better to say, "Shog me baby." and for you at this moment I have to hit you with, "You've been Shogged.";P
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Sad! Sad! But thank you for the link. I agree with the author of that post. I'll never forget one girl I went to school with. She was gorgeous, she knew it, she didn't care and she loved blowing the curve. I'm not talking her bust line either. For her the curves meant the highest scores in class. She got them and pretty much sent a "screw yourself" message to all the mail ego's (and there were plenty) in school. I got to know her and she was a fantastic person. She just wanted work in computers. Cool for sure.:cool:
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Hmm, I'm thinking young knave. Yes, I think VCF shall triumph over yon simplistic JavaScript, for VCF wraps JavaScript, and it's runtime dominates the simple script, only allowing what things it deems personable to execute. Yes my young imp, thy evil deeds shall be punished! Now begone with thee, and repent thy scurrilous acts, ere I lose my patience and bind thee to a lizards throat! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!
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Yes, I think VCF shall triumph over yon simplistic JavaScript, for VCF wraps JavaScript, and it's runtime dominates the simple script, only allowing what things it deems personable to execute.
Bah, my script will triumph, as True Freedom always rises above the restrictions of platform or framework, and with opportunity to err comes opportunity to excel.
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Thanks for that Rex. Jordon is in fact very qualified and has long standing relationships with scads of people in the software development world at places Microsoft, Google, Developmentor, Wintellect and on, and on. Chris and I have known Jordon for years as part of the software development community and I think she's the ideal person to run CodeProject's Developer News service. Give it some time guys, I think it will be great. David -- modified at 16:27 Thursday 26th January, 2006
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Give it some time guys, I think it will be great.
Me too! I think if we all offer her some constructive feedback and tell her the content we want we'll forget about RSS or Blog and just enjoy the newsletter. I mean if we want her to blog then in my book she needs to also sell iPods and iPod t-shirts. (Blogging, talk about trendy...):laugh:
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Yes, I think VCF shall triumph over yon simplistic JavaScript, for VCF wraps JavaScript, and it's runtime dominates the simple script, only allowing what things it deems personable to execute.
Bah, my script will triumph, as True Freedom always rises above the restrictions of platform or framework, and with opportunity to err comes opportunity to excel.
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Oh, my addle minded friend, methinks you forgotten your place! But come along my malevolent little mud dog, strike whilst you still draw breath! For the vanquished you shall surely be, for the onerous insult you have heaped upon the honor of beautiful Jordon, her grace without peer in the realm! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!
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Sad! Sad! But thank you for the link. I agree with the author of that post. I'll never forget one girl I went to school with. She was gorgeous, she knew it, she didn't care and she loved blowing the curve. I'm not talking her bust line either. For her the curves meant the highest scores in class. She got them and pretty much sent a "screw yourself" message to all the mail ego's (and there were plenty) in school. I got to know her and she was a fantastic person. She just wanted work in computers. Cool for sure.:cool:
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The best programmer on our team is female. And i don't mean best in terms of code output, or organization, or any single area - i mean that if you had to pick one person to see a project through from start to finish, she's the one you'd go with if you wanted the greatest possible chance of success. It's a little surprising at times, when i consider how many truly qualified programmers i've met, and how few of them are men. ( And yet, the vast majority of those looking for work seem to be male... Hmm...) :rolleyes:
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David Cunningham wrote:
Give it some time guys, I think it will be great.
Me too! I think if we all offer her some constructive feedback and tell her the content we want we'll forget about RSS or Blog and just enjoy the newsletter. I mean if we want her to blog then in my book she needs to also sell iPods and iPod t-shirts. (Blogging, talk about trendy...):laugh:
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code-frog wrote:
iPod t-shirts.
A shirt with a pocket that'll hold an iPod without sagging or letting it slip out when i lean over? I'd go for that...
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Yeah, think you'll be dodging that bullet for quite a while now. :laugh: I'm beginning to think there's an Austin Powers like aura with Shog. It's not "Shag me baby." nor is it "You've been shagged." I think it's better to say, "Shog me baby." and for you at this moment I have to hit you with, "You've been Shogged.";P
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:~ That sounds waaay dirtier than what i was going for...
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Oh, my addle minded friend, methinks you forgotten your place! But come along my malevolent little mud dog, strike whilst you still draw breath! For the vanquished you shall surely be, for the onerous insult you have heaped upon the honor of beautiful Jordon, her grace without peer in the realm! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!
[ Just want you to know, you've made my afternoon with these posts. Been reading Le Morte d'Arthur lately? :) ]
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:~ That sounds waaay dirtier than what i was going for...
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I mean it more as an expression of your very unique ability to be extremely creative with very short notice. You did something similar with an avatar question a while back that just floored me.
When someone's been shogged I mean it as they've become a victim of your sense of humor.
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The best programmer on our team is female. And i don't mean best in terms of code output, or organization, or any single area - i mean that if you had to pick one person to see a project through from start to finish, she's the one you'd go with if you wanted the greatest possible chance of success. It's a little surprising at times, when i consider how many truly qualified programmers i've met, and how few of them are men. ( And yet, the vast majority of those looking for work seem to be male... Hmm...) :rolleyes:
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Man, that's hard. I've been unemployed for what... almost 4 years now... :laugh:
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code-frog wrote:
iPod t-shirts.
A shirt with a pocket that'll hold an iPod without sagging or letting it slip out when i lean over? I'd go for that...
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Have you ever seen the carry strap for the Polar heart rate monitor? Someone just needs to stitch that inside a shirt all the way around and keep it adjustable. Then stitch pockets across it's stitch line and you'll be good to go. If you patent the idea and it makes you rich you owe me dinner.:cool:
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Nah, I'm not sure what's going on, perhaps I'm just temporarily channeling some mutant version of Shakespeare. Or that I'm bored - it's a toss up either way. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I challenge you to a duel
Will that be C++ pointers at 10 paces? :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When I want privacy, I'll close the bathroom door. [Stan Shannon] Nice sig! [Tim Deveaux on Matt Newman's sig with a quote from me]
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I mean it more as an expression of your very unique ability to be extremely creative with very short notice. You did something similar with an avatar question a while back that just floored me.
When someone's been shogged I mean it as they've become a victim of your sense of humor.
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Gotcha. :) (for what it's worth, shog is generally defined as a verb meaning "to shake / jog / shock". When i decided on it as an alias, i had no idea it was even a word. Funny how that worked out...)
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!! You bastard! You took a woman of infinite beauty, a veritable ray of rosy fingered sunshine, a brilliant, scintillating dew drop, rebinding, and refocusing the very light around her into a halo of sumptuous delight, and cast, nay my merry fool, threw her to the dogs with this vile characterization. I am overwrought with horror, nay with angst, nay, not even words can describe my state right now, such churlish emotions do I feel beating in my breast! I challenge you to a duel, to defend the honor of young Jordon against your hellish deeds and contemptible actions oh, Sir, Most Foul! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! -- modified at 14:16 Thursday 26th January, 2006
Bravo! Bravo! I'm not entirely certain if the vision I have in my head of a Shakespearean play (et al Hamlet or Mcbeth) or The Princess Bride goes better with your rhetoric ... :-D Regardless ... well played Master Crafton.
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