Superball Commercials
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My favorite "Superbowl" commercial is: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4804033000500581013[^] "Art doesn't want to be familiar. It wants to astonish us. Or, in some cases, to enrage us. It wants to move us. To touch us. Not accommodate us, make us comfortable." -- Jamake Highwater Toasty0.com My Grandkids
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Hey, Yesterday night was the first time the superbowl final was broadcasted on french TV. So that was also the first time I watched a football game. (it started about 0:30 PM here in France) Well, to be honest, I was very disappointed. :~ I could stand it till half-time, this is ... 2h later :omg: !!! and they "played" 30min !! I cannot even imagine how these guys get tired after the game, they play about 10 seconds every 5 minutes, and only if they are on the field, since a team with 11 players has about 50 substitues, and they keep changing players all the time... The only really amazing guys were the quaterbacks, making passes as they did with such precision is really impressive (especially since they probably do not see anything under the protective helmet in addition to all the lights everywhere). So IMO this is a game, but this is not sport. I think this is a kind of thing you must really know since you've been a kid to be able to enjoy it... Plus the guy commenting the game was a former professional, playing in defense, and he said that he has never even touched the ball in a game in his whole carrier :~ ~RaGE();
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Hey, Yesterday night was the first time the superbowl final was broadcasted on french TV. So that was also the first time I watched a football game. (it started about 0:30 PM here in France) Well, to be honest, I was very disappointed. :~ I could stand it till half-time, this is ... 2h later :omg: !!! and they "played" 30min !! I cannot even imagine how these guys get tired after the game, they play about 10 seconds every 5 minutes, and only if they are on the field, since a team with 11 players has about 50 substitues, and they keep changing players all the time... The only really amazing guys were the quaterbacks, making passes as they did with such precision is really impressive (especially since they probably do not see anything under the protective helmet in addition to all the lights everywhere). So IMO this is a game, but this is not sport. I think this is a kind of thing you must really know since you've been a kid to be able to enjoy it... Plus the guy commenting the game was a former professional, playing in defense, and he said that he has never even touched the ball in a game in his whole carrier :~ ~RaGE();
Rage wrote:
The only really amazing guys were the quaterbacks, making passes as they did with such precision is really impressive (especially since they probably do not see anything under the protective helmet in addition to all the lights everywhere).
:wtf: And it's obvious you never played football. Just because the camera follows the ball doesn't mean the quaterback is doing all of the work. Let's see you try and hold a defensive line. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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Rage wrote:
The only really amazing guys were the quaterbacks, making passes as they did with such precision is really impressive (especially since they probably do not see anything under the protective helmet in addition to all the lights everywhere).
:wtf: And it's obvious you never played football. Just because the camera follows the ball doesn't mean the quaterback is doing all of the work. Let's see you try and hold a defensive line. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
You're being a little unfair: If you've never watched football before you would think it all revolved around the quarterback. The big problem with American sport as watched from anywhere outside America is that it is VERY boring. Far too many adverts and breaks and not enough smoothly flowing play which you do get with, for instance, rugby or real football. (Soccer was called football long before football was called football. If you see what I mean).
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You're being a little unfair: If you've never watched football before you would think it all revolved around the quarterback. The big problem with American sport as watched from anywhere outside America is that it is VERY boring. Far too many adverts and breaks and not enough smoothly flowing play which you do get with, for instance, rugby or real football. (Soccer was called football long before football was called football. If you see what I mean).
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
legalAlien wrote:
You're being a little unfair: If you've never watched football before you would think it all revolved around the quarterback.
How is me saying he obviously never played football being unfair? :omg: Unfair to what? It's obvious he never played it, so that's what I said.
legalAlien wrote:
The big problem with American sport as watched from anywhere outside America is that it is VERY boring.
Well, that may be the case. But, I'd like to think there's at least one person in the world outside the country that likes American sports. :laugh:
legalAlien wrote:
Far too many adverts and breaks and not enough smoothly flowing play which you do get with, for instance, rugby or real football.
Ain't it the truth. I think it's even worse with the superbowl. The commercials cut into the game a lot.
legalAlien wrote:
Soccer was called football long before football was called football. If you see what I mean
I know that, but I don't see how a difference in names automatically makes a sport boring. Jeremy Falcon
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Hey, Yesterday night was the first time the superbowl final was broadcasted on french TV. So that was also the first time I watched a football game. (it started about 0:30 PM here in France) Well, to be honest, I was very disappointed. :~ I could stand it till half-time, this is ... 2h later :omg: !!! and they "played" 30min !! I cannot even imagine how these guys get tired after the game, they play about 10 seconds every 5 minutes, and only if they are on the field, since a team with 11 players has about 50 substitues, and they keep changing players all the time... The only really amazing guys were the quaterbacks, making passes as they did with such precision is really impressive (especially since they probably do not see anything under the protective helmet in addition to all the lights everywhere). So IMO this is a game, but this is not sport. I think this is a kind of thing you must really know since you've been a kid to be able to enjoy it... Plus the guy commenting the game was a former professional, playing in defense, and he said that he has never even touched the ball in a game in his whole carrier :~ ~RaGE();
American football is really a fascinating sport once you understand it. A football team is almost like an entire olympic team. You have every possible kind of athletic ability on display. The substitutions are more about tactics than fatigue as the coaching staffs of the two teams engage in an almost chess like strategy to counter some element of the other teams offense/defense. True, the play is not in a continuous flow, and doesn't put a primium on sheer endurance, but the interruptions help the audience keep up with the more tactical elements of the game. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
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Hey, Yesterday night was the first time the superbowl final was broadcasted on french TV. So that was also the first time I watched a football game. (it started about 0:30 PM here in France) Well, to be honest, I was very disappointed. :~ I could stand it till half-time, this is ... 2h later :omg: !!! and they "played" 30min !! I cannot even imagine how these guys get tired after the game, they play about 10 seconds every 5 minutes, and only if they are on the field, since a team with 11 players has about 50 substitues, and they keep changing players all the time... The only really amazing guys were the quaterbacks, making passes as they did with such precision is really impressive (especially since they probably do not see anything under the protective helmet in addition to all the lights everywhere). So IMO this is a game, but this is not sport. I think this is a kind of thing you must really know since you've been a kid to be able to enjoy it... Plus the guy commenting the game was a former professional, playing in defense, and he said that he has never even touched the ball in a game in his whole carrier :~ ~RaGE();
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Don't watch football. Just the commercials, cheerleaders and half-time show
Talking about that, this is something I did not understand : the guys commenting the game said that 5.6% of the people watching a channel broadcasting the superbowl final are only watching the ... commercials, without explaining further more :confused: What is so special about it ? (In fact I just realize that the thread started with the commercials topic, actually). ~RaGE();
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Hey, Yesterday night was the first time the superbowl final was broadcasted on french TV. So that was also the first time I watched a football game. (it started about 0:30 PM here in France) Well, to be honest, I was very disappointed. :~ I could stand it till half-time, this is ... 2h later :omg: !!! and they "played" 30min !! I cannot even imagine how these guys get tired after the game, they play about 10 seconds every 5 minutes, and only if they are on the field, since a team with 11 players has about 50 substitues, and they keep changing players all the time... The only really amazing guys were the quaterbacks, making passes as they did with such precision is really impressive (especially since they probably do not see anything under the protective helmet in addition to all the lights everywhere). So IMO this is a game, but this is not sport. I think this is a kind of thing you must really know since you've been a kid to be able to enjoy it... Plus the guy commenting the game was a former professional, playing in defense, and he said that he has never even touched the ball in a game in his whole carrier :~ ~RaGE();
You're misinformed. Just because you don't understand how the game is played does not mean it is an easy game. Nor does it mean it "isn't a sport". Imagine the outrage if I came in here saying I don't understand how you Europeans call soccer, err... "footbal" a sport, when the only thing that happens in most games -- despite several hours of running back and forth, back and forth -- is maybe 1 or 2 goals. Ugh!! And for your information, the guy commenting the game is a football legend. His name is John Madden; he's a a great former football coach in the 1970s who won a Super Bowl or two himself. He is also responsible in bringing the sports video game genre to mainstream with his Madden Football franchise in the late 1980s (which is still running[^] today).
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Hey, Yesterday night was the first time the superbowl final was broadcasted on french TV. So that was also the first time I watched a football game. (it started about 0:30 PM here in France) Well, to be honest, I was very disappointed. :~ I could stand it till half-time, this is ... 2h later :omg: !!! and they "played" 30min !! I cannot even imagine how these guys get tired after the game, they play about 10 seconds every 5 minutes, and only if they are on the field, since a team with 11 players has about 50 substitues, and they keep changing players all the time... The only really amazing guys were the quaterbacks, making passes as they did with such precision is really impressive (especially since they probably do not see anything under the protective helmet in addition to all the lights everywhere). So IMO this is a game, but this is not sport. I think this is a kind of thing you must really know since you've been a kid to be able to enjoy it... Plus the guy commenting the game was a former professional, playing in defense, and he said that he has never even touched the ball in a game in his whole carrier :~ ~RaGE();
Well, I agree that watching football for the first time on TV (either alone or with someone else who has never seen the game) would probably be a bit of a let down. But that's not how football is best enjoyed. A group of friends who know the rules of the game (and there is no shortage of rules, some of which would seem rather arbitrary to folks who aren't familiar with the game) watching on a big screen TV is how you watch the Superbowl. The action between the plays moves from the actual game to your living room, where you have four or five guys yelling at the screen and each other and high-fiving and debating whether or not any opposing player actually did touch the ball carrier after his knee touched the turf. Football has very specific rules and it can be tough to follow sometimes if you don't know why a flag was thrown or why a down is played over or why that touchdown did or didn't count. But when you know the game and are watching with friends who also know the game, it becomes about the experience, not just what happening on the field. Oh, and beer. Did I mention that part? Charlie if(!curlies){ return; }
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Don't watch football. Just the commercials, cheerleaders and half-time show
Talking about that, this is something I did not understand : the guys commenting the game said that 5.6% of the people watching a channel broadcasting the superbowl final are only watching the ... commercials, without explaining further more :confused: What is so special about it ? (In fact I just realize that the thread started with the commercials topic, actually). ~RaGE();
THe commercials on the SuperBowl are ones that companies pay $1M+ for the privilege of a 30 second spot. Then they try to make the best one for millions more. Of course they use those commercials later after the superbowl, but you know how many people are going to be watching that game. They want people to remember their company and product. Steve Maier, MCSD MCAD
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American football is really a fascinating sport once you understand it. A football team is almost like an entire olympic team. You have every possible kind of athletic ability on display. The substitutions are more about tactics than fatigue as the coaching staffs of the two teams engage in an almost chess like strategy to counter some element of the other teams offense/defense. True, the play is not in a continuous flow, and doesn't put a primium on sheer endurance, but the interruptions help the audience keep up with the more tactical elements of the game. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
Maybe the superbowl final was not the best game to start with, then. Too much show around it I presume. Plus the comments were not the best ever (since what obviously makes it interesting are all the small details, not the general rules, and they basically only talked about the general rules. So I _do_ know now what a touchdoen is). Thinking about it, it also took me a few games to enjoy rugby, because rules are not so easy to understand, and it is always very frustrating to see that penalties are given without even understanding why. ~RaGE();
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You're misinformed. Just because you don't understand how the game is played does not mean it is an easy game. Nor does it mean it "isn't a sport". Imagine the outrage if I came in here saying I don't understand how you Europeans call soccer, err... "footbal" a sport, when the only thing that happens in most games -- despite several hours of running back and forth, back and forth -- is maybe 1 or 2 goals. Ugh!! And for your information, the guy commenting the game is a football legend. His name is John Madden; he's a a great former football coach in the 1970s who won a Super Bowl or two himself. He is also responsible in bringing the sports video game genre to mainstream with his Madden Football franchise in the late 1980s (which is still running[^] today).
Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango
Judah Himango wrote:
easy game
I never said it is easy, only that the game is always interrupted, making it last an eternity, and that to me it does not seem to be an endurance thing, since, .. well, the game is always interrupted. I was expecting something more spectacular. But you're totally right, I do not know the game.
Judah Himango wrote:
And for your information, the guy commenting the game is a football legend. His name is John Madden; he's a a great former football coach in the 1970s who won a Super Bowl or two himself. He is also responsible in bringing the sports video game genre to mainstream with his Madden Football franchise in the late 1980s (which is still running[^] today).
Unless John Madden speaks french, I do not think it was him commenting the game yesterday :-D It was some canadian guy who played in the NFL a few years ago. ( I was talking about the "french" comments). ~RaGE();
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Well, I agree that watching football for the first time on TV (either alone or with someone else who has never seen the game) would probably be a bit of a let down. But that's not how football is best enjoyed. A group of friends who know the rules of the game (and there is no shortage of rules, some of which would seem rather arbitrary to folks who aren't familiar with the game) watching on a big screen TV is how you watch the Superbowl. The action between the plays moves from the actual game to your living room, where you have four or five guys yelling at the screen and each other and high-fiving and debating whether or not any opposing player actually did touch the ball carrier after his knee touched the turf. Football has very specific rules and it can be tough to follow sometimes if you don't know why a flag was thrown or why a down is played over or why that touchdown did or didn't count. But when you know the game and are watching with friends who also know the game, it becomes about the experience, not just what happening on the field. Oh, and beer. Did I mention that part? Charlie if(!curlies){ return; }
Charlie Williams wrote:
Football has very specific rules and it can be tough to follow sometimes if you don't know why a flag was thrown or why a down is played over or why that touchdown did or didn't count.
Yes, that's it. The guys commenting the game were trying to get by finding an easy explanation for every given flag, since you obviously sometimes need to know the exception to the excpetion to the rule to understand why the flag has been given, and the guys did not want to spend 15 min on every flag. (well, in fact they should have, this would have made the time seem shorter during the breaks). ~RaGE();
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Judah Himango wrote:
easy game
I never said it is easy, only that the game is always interrupted, making it last an eternity, and that to me it does not seem to be an endurance thing, since, .. well, the game is always interrupted. I was expecting something more spectacular. But you're totally right, I do not know the game.
Judah Himango wrote:
And for your information, the guy commenting the game is a football legend. His name is John Madden; he's a a great former football coach in the 1970s who won a Super Bowl or two himself. He is also responsible in bringing the sports video game genre to mainstream with his Madden Football franchise in the late 1980s (which is still running[^] today).
Unless John Madden speaks french, I do not think it was him commenting the game yesterday :-D It was some canadian guy who played in the NFL a few years ago. ( I was talking about the "french" comments). ~RaGE();
Rage wrote:
it does not seem to be an endurance thing,
You should tell that to Kory Stringer, one of the players on my home team who died[^] during training camp a few years ago. Granted this was the Super Bowl; it's a huge media frenzie, with commercials paying millions of US dollars per second of air time, so this game is not a typical game as far as the breaks between plays go.
Rage wrote:
I do not think it was him commenting the game yesterday It was some canadian guy who played in the NFL a few years ago. ( I was talking about the "french" comments).
Ah, my fault. Of course you weren't getting the American announcers, it would only make sense to have French commentators. :doh:
Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango
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Well, I agree that watching football for the first time on TV (either alone or with someone else who has never seen the game) would probably be a bit of a let down. But that's not how football is best enjoyed. A group of friends who know the rules of the game (and there is no shortage of rules, some of which would seem rather arbitrary to folks who aren't familiar with the game) watching on a big screen TV is how you watch the Superbowl. The action between the plays moves from the actual game to your living room, where you have four or five guys yelling at the screen and each other and high-fiving and debating whether or not any opposing player actually did touch the ball carrier after his knee touched the turf. Football has very specific rules and it can be tough to follow sometimes if you don't know why a flag was thrown or why a down is played over or why that touchdown did or didn't count. But when you know the game and are watching with friends who also know the game, it becomes about the experience, not just what happening on the field. Oh, and beer. Did I mention that part? Charlie if(!curlies){ return; }
Exactly!
Charlie Williams wrote:
Oh, and beer. Did I mention that part?
..and chicken wings. You need some chicken wings. ;) BW
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Maybe the superbowl final was not the best game to start with, then. Too much show around it I presume. Plus the comments were not the best ever (since what obviously makes it interesting are all the small details, not the general rules, and they basically only talked about the general rules. So I _do_ know now what a touchdoen is). Thinking about it, it also took me a few games to enjoy rugby, because rules are not so easy to understand, and it is always very frustrating to see that penalties are given without even understanding why. ~RaGE();
Rage wrote:
Too much show
Absolutely. Super bowl hype becomes almost unbearable. Although, I did enjoy seeing the MVPs of each super bowl presented. That was a nice touch. It took me waaaaay back.
Rage wrote:
that penalties are given without even understanding why.
That is one thing I don't like about both American Football and basketball. There are too many ways you can just touch someone and stop the game for a penalty. As far as I am concerned, unless you are jumping up and down on someones head, it should be legal. "You get that which you tolerate"
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American football is really a fascinating sport once you understand it. A football team is almost like an entire olympic team. You have every possible kind of athletic ability on display. The substitutions are more about tactics than fatigue as the coaching staffs of the two teams engage in an almost chess like strategy to counter some element of the other teams offense/defense. True, the play is not in a continuous flow, and doesn't put a primium on sheer endurance, but the interruptions help the audience keep up with the more tactical elements of the game. "If anything, the West is awash in an epidemic of self-hate crimes." "a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself"
This is very well said. If one does not know the game, I think it would be easy to see it as a bunch of guys only "playing" a few seconds out of every minute. But as you come to understand the game, you realize how much strategy and tactics are involved, at both a macro level (full game strategy of head coach and offensive/defensive coordinators) an a micro level (e.g. an invididual offensive lineman's change in blocking strategy for a particular defensive attack). The chess game aspect of football works at the macro and micro levels too. I particuarly enjoy studying the strategy at the line of scrimmage - the point of attack... to see how an offensive line, who are involved in a wrestling match for the entire 60 minutes of play, uses a specific blocking scheme effectively to open a particular lane for a running back (count other backs and receivers in that blocking scheme too); or to see how a defense attacks a quarterback with a linebacker or corner blitz... or just by having defensive linemen stunt to fake out an offensive line - some amazing strategy happens at the line of scrimmage.
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Rage wrote:
The only really amazing guys were the quaterbacks, making passes as they did with such precision is really impressive (especially since they probably do not see anything under the protective helmet in addition to all the lights everywhere).
:wtf: And it's obvious you never played football. Just because the camera follows the ball doesn't mean the quaterback is doing all of the work. Let's see you try and hold a defensive line. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
still, rugby has been fairly accurately described as "American Football, without the armor andf the breaks" ;)
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