A sensible Bishop
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Regarding a picture depicting Jesus surrounded by gay men. Politician. It's a foul picture, an absolute abomination. I regard it as sacrilegious, blasphemous, highly offensive and grossly indecent. And this is over the fence, this is beyond the pale and it should be removed. Bishop. I don't think that the law should protect us Christians from offensive material. I don't think the law should protect any religion from offensive material or any other ideology from offensive material. The law should only be used to stop people calling for violence, or inciting the kind of hatred, racial hatred, that will lead to violence and discrimination of a serious kind. But other than that, we need to have a free society, free from the interfering of the law in these kind of debates. And this applies in my view right across the board for all religions. http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/common/printfriendly.pl?http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2006/s1565487.htm[^] John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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Regarding a picture depicting Jesus surrounded by gay men. Politician. It's a foul picture, an absolute abomination. I regard it as sacrilegious, blasphemous, highly offensive and grossly indecent. And this is over the fence, this is beyond the pale and it should be removed. Bishop. I don't think that the law should protect us Christians from offensive material. I don't think the law should protect any religion from offensive material or any other ideology from offensive material. The law should only be used to stop people calling for violence, or inciting the kind of hatred, racial hatred, that will lead to violence and discrimination of a serious kind. But other than that, we need to have a free society, free from the interfering of the law in these kind of debates. And this applies in my view right across the board for all religions. http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/common/printfriendly.pl?http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2006/s1565487.htm[^] John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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http://www.revisef65.org/3bilder/ecceveropet.jpg[^] for what its worth Nunc est bibendum
Is that the picture in question? Just like the cartoon, seems like a storm over nothing. People (meaning ANY crutchless-relgious fruitcake) need to get off their high-horses and address the real problems of the world: poverty, homelesness, child/female abuse and so on. If everyone spent as much time thinking about those as they do about their stoopid fucking religious mumbo-jumbo bullshit bollocks we'd all be far better off.
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
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Is that the picture in question? Just like the cartoon, seems like a storm over nothing. People (meaning ANY crutchless-relgious fruitcake) need to get off their high-horses and address the real problems of the world: poverty, homelesness, child/female abuse and so on. If everyone spent as much time thinking about those as they do about their stoopid fucking religious mumbo-jumbo bullshit bollocks we'd all be far better off.
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
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Yep. Personally I think it is crap, and just dome to inflame and get herself noticed. Imagine if this had been done to Mohammed, man, what a mess that would make. Nunc est bibendum
Oops, I thought that WAS Mohammed!
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
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Is that the picture in question? Just like the cartoon, seems like a storm over nothing. People (meaning ANY crutchless-relgious fruitcake) need to get off their high-horses and address the real problems of the world: poverty, homelesness, child/female abuse and so on. If everyone spent as much time thinking about those as they do about their stoopid fucking religious mumbo-jumbo bullshit bollocks we'd all be far better off.
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
legalAlien wrote:
Is that the picture in question?
I haven't seen the picture in question, but I don't think so. If you step back in the URL you get here http://www.revisef65.org/3bilder/[^] which shows that the picture dates from 2003. I think the picture causing the controversy is recent. Further the site is Norwegian and the controversy is in Australia (in Tasmania actually, where Christian Graus lives, so perhaps he has seen the picture :) ). <Edit> Seems to clearly be the wrong picture. From this story, we see that it is the artist's "latest piece", which rules out the 2003 image. http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,18077670%255E3462,00.html[^] </Edit> John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine -- modified at 11:14 Wednesday 8th February, 2006
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legalAlien wrote:
Is that the picture in question?
I haven't seen the picture in question, but I don't think so. If you step back in the URL you get here http://www.revisef65.org/3bilder/[^] which shows that the picture dates from 2003. I think the picture causing the controversy is recent. Further the site is Norwegian and the controversy is in Australia (in Tasmania actually, where Christian Graus lives, so perhaps he has seen the picture :) ). <Edit> Seems to clearly be the wrong picture. From this story, we see that it is the artist's "latest piece", which rules out the 2003 image. http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,18077670%255E3462,00.html[^] </Edit> John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine -- modified at 11:14 Wednesday 8th February, 2006
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Are there that many pictures of Christ surrounded by gay men circulating the world? Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
Are there that many pictures of Christ surrounded by gay men circulating the world?
Quite a few I suspect. There has been at least one play that portrayed Jesus himself as gay. John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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Are there that many pictures of Christ surrounded by gay men circulating the world? Nunc est bibendum
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Is that the picture in question? Just like the cartoon, seems like a storm over nothing. People (meaning ANY crutchless-relgious fruitcake) need to get off their high-horses and address the real problems of the world: poverty, homelesness, child/female abuse and so on. If everyone spent as much time thinking about those as they do about their stoopid fucking religious mumbo-jumbo bullshit bollocks we'd all be far better off.
turning the other cheek just gets you slapped twice
Just want to say I agree with you. Lately* I've been of the opinion that many people use their religion as an excuse only to feel good and to feel superior than others, and they nitpicked over not-so-important things while keeping a blind eye on the real world. *I had BIG arguments with some Christian friends on their actions being incompatible with their speech (i.e. the case of who's the biggest hypocrite: the Christians who pretend to live holy or the not-so-holy-and-not-so-Christian who live as they are) Edbert Sydney, Australia "A day without sunshine is like, you know, night."
