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    An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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      An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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      inphone wrote:

      The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products.

      Doing what? Offering consultations on using Visual Studio? :confused: "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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        An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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        Well...When I took this job several months ago, I found that they had already purchased C++ Builder at several thousand dollars. They also had MSDN, so I said that we're going to use Visual Studio. A lot of that decision came from my belief that Borland couldn't be around for all that much longer in the IDE space. Guess I was right!

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          An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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          Judah Gabriel Himango
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          :sigh: They made some great products and produced lots of good people (including Anders Hejlsberg, the primary creator of C#). I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for Borland.

          Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango

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            An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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            Robert de Brus
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            That's a sad day. I guess the Delphi and C++Builder days are over. Man, that press release is a difficult to swallow. There are developers at Borland.

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              An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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              I learned how to program C using Turbo C. It was an amazing product. I also preferred their Turbo Assembler; I still have the small, wire bound 80x86 reference manual. I think this is good news; their C++ product has languished for years. One problem is that it never respected Windows; that somehow a handful of engineers knew more than the usability guys at Microsoft and all too often wrote custom controls to replace standard windows controls. The result are applications that have that slight "this isn't an actual Windows application feel." Heck, I need work, I'll buy them! Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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                Michael P Butler
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                inphone wrote:

                "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products."

                Ditching their development tools again. Didn't they learn anything the last time they did this. Although if they are going to turn their efforts into building tools that integrate with Visual Studio, then this may be good news. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                  An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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                  When I saw that JBuilder 2006 came with all the same bugs that were in JBuilder 2005 I was wondering. Microsoft did the same thing with VB6. It's a typical desperation messure that companies do to get the last release out just before the product reaches it's end-of-life.

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                    :sigh: They made some great products and produced lots of good people (including Anders Hejlsberg, the primary creator of C#). I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for Borland.

                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango

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                    I have fond memories of Turbo Pascal 1.0. Things were a lot easier (and cheaper) back then... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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                      "Borland lives deep in the Santa Cruz mountains with his transportable computer, his burro, and his dogs. In the early days, he didn't have a permanent homestead, but lived in a couple of camps deep in the redwood groves. Now, Frank has settled down a little, bought a cabin, and is raising a family, thanks to the success of his programming."

                      -- Borland History

                      :rolleyes: I never cared for Pascal, but my copy of Turbo C++ (which i bought specifically to write a utility to help fix a broken DOS installation) was the only reason i bothered learning that wretched language. R.I.P., Borland.

                      ---- Scripts i've known... CPhog 0.9.9 - make CP better. Forum Bookmark 0.2.1 - bookmark forum posts on Pensieve Print forum 0.1.1 - printer-friendly forums

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                        An official letter from David Intersimone states that "Today, Wednesday February 8, 2006 at 1am Pacific Time, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for our IDE product lines that include Delphi, C++Builder, C#Builder, JBuilder (and Peloton), InterBase, JDataStore, nDataStore, Kylix, and our older Borland and Turbo language products and tools. The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products." Bad news for developers and Fans, anyway,

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                        inphone wrote:

                        The goal is to create a standalone business focused on advancing individual developer productivity using the people inside Borland who are focused on the success of these award winning products

                        eh?


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                          :sigh: They made some great products and produced lots of good people (including Anders Hejlsberg, the primary creator of C#). I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for Borland.

                          Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango

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                          Judah Himango wrote:

                          I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for Borland.

                          That was when they released Borland C++ 5.0 while trying to push everyone on Delphi.. This is when I shifted all development to VC++. Borland's products at that time where released in barely beta quality and they started to show that they have no loyalty to the C++ world as most development was heading to Delphi. My first compiles were Wacom (or something like that, was more than 20 years ago ;) ), Lattice C and Microsoft C. The worse at the time was Microsoft C as it had bugs the company did not seem to accept (memory bugs were the worst). Shortly after this time period, Borland pumped out Turbo C and the move was one. It was a great product compared to what was already out there and only cost $50. I kept up with all upgrades until 4.5 which was starting to show signs of bugs that should not have made it out to released, but 5.0 was the killer. To me Borland died more than a decade ago... Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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                            Judah Himango wrote:

                            I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for Borland.

                            That was when they released Borland C++ 5.0 while trying to push everyone on Delphi.. This is when I shifted all development to VC++. Borland's products at that time where released in barely beta quality and they started to show that they have no loyalty to the C++ world as most development was heading to Delphi. My first compiles were Wacom (or something like that, was more than 20 years ago ;) ), Lattice C and Microsoft C. The worse at the time was Microsoft C as it had bugs the company did not seem to accept (memory bugs were the worst). Shortly after this time period, Borland pumped out Turbo C and the move was one. It was a great product compared to what was already out there and only cost $50. I kept up with all upgrades until 4.5 which was starting to show signs of bugs that should not have made it out to released, but 5.0 was the killer. To me Borland died more than a decade ago... Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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                            So what now for you Rocky? Since Microsoft has pulled their own Delphi and focus development on the Delphi-like language, C#, is this the beginning of the end for Microsoft as well? :)

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                              So what now for you Rocky? Since Microsoft has pulled their own Delphi and focus development on the Delphi-like language, C#, is this the beginning of the end for Microsoft as well? :)

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                              Judah Himango wrote:

                              focus development on the Delphi-like language, C#,

                              While I know this is for humor, but in reality, Delphi was more to C/C+ developers like VB (of which I still hate the syntax and refuse to use for development if at all possible ;) ). As a C/C++ for around two decades, it was an easy move to C# after just the first couple of days. While no programming language is perfect, C# has come much closer than others to me and my history of development work. I know it has sure shortened my development/debug time and I seldom find myself in the debugger where I use to live in the C/C++ days ;) BTW, on a side note, we plan to have children in the coming few years and have thought about naming a son (if we have on that is ;) ) Judah, did you have any problems with that name going up? I sure would not wish the name "rocky" on any kid :) Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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                                Judah Himango wrote:

                                focus development on the Delphi-like language, C#,

                                While I know this is for humor, but in reality, Delphi was more to C/C+ developers like VB (of which I still hate the syntax and refuse to use for development if at all possible ;) ). As a C/C++ for around two decades, it was an easy move to C# after just the first couple of days. While no programming language is perfect, C# has come much closer than others to me and my history of development work. I know it has sure shortened my development/debug time and I seldom find myself in the debugger where I use to live in the C/C++ days ;) BTW, on a side note, we plan to have children in the coming few years and have thought about naming a son (if we have on that is ;) ) Judah, did you have any problems with that name going up? I sure would not wish the name "rocky" on any kid :) Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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                                Rocky Moore wrote:

                                BTW, on a side note, we plan to have children in the coming few years and have thought about naming a son (if we have on that is ) Judah

                                Cool! I've never met another person named "Judah" in my entire life, despite it being a very Biblical name. Maybe it's too Jewish for some Christians, I dunno. :confused: I haven't had any problems with the name. Growing up I thought it would be nicer to have a more common name, but as I got older I came to appreciate its uniqueness. And of course every time I introduce myself to some Christian person, I always get back compliments on the name and remarks about the "lion of Judah" (Jesus). So yeah, I'm glad my parents chose the name.

                                Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango

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                                  Rocky Moore wrote:

                                  BTW, on a side note, we plan to have children in the coming few years and have thought about naming a son (if we have on that is ) Judah

                                  Cool! I've never met another person named "Judah" in my entire life, despite it being a very Biblical name. Maybe it's too Jewish for some Christians, I dunno. :confused: I haven't had any problems with the name. Growing up I thought it would be nicer to have a more common name, but as I got older I came to appreciate its uniqueness. And of course every time I introduce myself to some Christian person, I always get back compliments on the name and remarks about the "lion of Judah" (Jesus). So yeah, I'm glad my parents chose the name.

                                  Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Connor's Christmas Spectacular! Judah Himango

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                                  Judah Himango wrote:

                                  Cool! I've never met another person named "Judah" in my entire life

                                  Yeah, you would think that the combined name "Rocky Moore" would be pretty unique. There is another Rocky Moore that lives in this town (small town out in the sticks in southern Oregon USA with a population for around 50,000 including surrounding areaas) and another Rocky Moore that is in a town 85 miles away over the pass who is a car salesman. It is amazing to say the least ;) Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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