VC++ .NET Gripe
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I don't know if this topic has been explored or touched on greatly but one of my biggest gripe in VC++ .NET is the lack of a Window Form Designer. I mean WTF? Why don't they have a Window Form designer? Granted I still am using MFC 7 and the dialog editor, but it would have been great to have a Window Form editor. I mean it just shows that they concentrated all their resources on C# and VB and ignored a Win Form editor in VC++. I just think this bites, and the offical word is that one may be released but maybe not in this release of VS .NET?!?! I mean why couldn't they release a WinForm Designer in VC++? :( If there is a valid reason for this let me know. But now I feel like I have to go buy C# just for the WinForm designer?!?! Uuughhh... Well that's my gripe. Thanks for listening. HomeNuke ---- "Nuke'd Your Home, Yet?" Run your own PostNuke based web server from home http://www.homenuke.com
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I don't know if this topic has been explored or touched on greatly but one of my biggest gripe in VC++ .NET is the lack of a Window Form Designer. I mean WTF? Why don't they have a Window Form designer? Granted I still am using MFC 7 and the dialog editor, but it would have been great to have a Window Form editor. I mean it just shows that they concentrated all their resources on C# and VB and ignored a Win Form editor in VC++. I just think this bites, and the offical word is that one may be released but maybe not in this release of VS .NET?!?! I mean why couldn't they release a WinForm Designer in VC++? :( If there is a valid reason for this let me know. But now I feel like I have to go buy C# just for the WinForm designer?!?! Uuughhh... Well that's my gripe. Thanks for listening. HomeNuke ---- "Nuke'd Your Home, Yet?" Run your own PostNuke based web server from home http://www.homenuke.com
Lack of time to do it possibly. C# and VB.NET are the way we are being hearded to doing .NET GUI's. So if they were cutting features to ship on time, WinForms and C++ would be the first to go. I've heard the rumours that the C++ team are working on it, for the patch release later this year. I feel that VC++.NET was just a holding pattern release, whilst they try and figure out what the future directions for C++/MFC/ATL are. Michael :-)
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Lack of time to do it possibly. C# and VB.NET are the way we are being hearded to doing .NET GUI's. So if they were cutting features to ship on time, WinForms and C++ would be the first to go. I've heard the rumours that the C++ team are working on it, for the patch release later this year. I feel that VC++.NET was just a holding pattern release, whilst they try and figure out what the future directions for C++/MFC/ATL are. Michael :-)
Michael P Butler wrote: Lack of time to do it possibly. But i kinda fail to realise, when ms says it has been into this .net stuff (devt) for some four years. Cheers Kannan
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Michael P Butler wrote: Lack of time to do it possibly. But i kinda fail to realise, when ms says it has been into this .net stuff (devt) for some four years. Cheers Kannan
Lets say that we are all actually lucky that they didnt decide to abandon C++. I wonder whether they'd do that with VS 8.0 ? Nish :eek: Bow wow wow, Yippee yo yippee yay, My miniputt high, Is now 30 yay.
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Lets say that we are all actually lucky that they didnt decide to abandon C++. I wonder whether they'd do that with VS 8.0 ? Nish :eek: Bow wow wow, Yippee yo yippee yay, My miniputt high, Is now 30 yay.
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I wonder whether they'd do that with VS 8.0 ? They will not do that. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Michael P Butler wrote: Lack of time to do it possibly. But i kinda fail to realise, when ms says it has been into this .net stuff (devt) for some four years. Cheers Kannan
Four years seems a short amount of time to do what Microsft have attempted. I'm not surprised VS.NET is missing many features we take as key. Of course most of the time was taken trying to convert that Java source code into C#. Sun didn't do much commenting in their code :-D Not to mention the time taken to try and make a decent language out of Visual Basic. ;-) Michael :-)
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I don't know if this topic has been explored or touched on greatly but one of my biggest gripe in VC++ .NET is the lack of a Window Form Designer. I mean WTF? Why don't they have a Window Form designer? Granted I still am using MFC 7 and the dialog editor, but it would have been great to have a Window Form editor. I mean it just shows that they concentrated all their resources on C# and VB and ignored a Win Form editor in VC++. I just think this bites, and the offical word is that one may be released but maybe not in this release of VS .NET?!?! I mean why couldn't they release a WinForm Designer in VC++? :( If there is a valid reason for this let me know. But now I feel like I have to go buy C# just for the WinForm designer?!?! Uuughhh... Well that's my gripe. Thanks for listening. HomeNuke ---- "Nuke'd Your Home, Yet?" Run your own PostNuke based web server from home http://www.homenuke.com
This has been discussed many, many times, and the quick reply is 'it's coming!' CodeDOM was not included in the initial release of C++ .NET but will be included in the update due later this year. The designer relies on CodeDOM so once we get CodeDOM we'll have designer support. cheers, Chris Maunder
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Michael P Butler wrote: Lack of time to do it possibly. But i kinda fail to realise, when ms says it has been into this .net stuff (devt) for some four years. Cheers Kannan
Four years? That's peanuts (and not even roasted ones). ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk Sonork ID: 100.9977 Dave …
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I don't know if this topic has been explored or touched on greatly but one of my biggest gripe in VC++ .NET is the lack of a Window Form Designer. I mean WTF? Why don't they have a Window Form designer? Granted I still am using MFC 7 and the dialog editor, but it would have been great to have a Window Form editor. I mean it just shows that they concentrated all their resources on C# and VB and ignored a Win Form editor in VC++. I just think this bites, and the offical word is that one may be released but maybe not in this release of VS .NET?!?! I mean why couldn't they release a WinForm Designer in VC++? :( If there is a valid reason for this let me know. But now I feel like I have to go buy C# just for the WinForm designer?!?! Uuughhh... Well that's my gripe. Thanks for listening. HomeNuke ---- "Nuke'd Your Home, Yet?" Run your own PostNuke based web server from home http://www.homenuke.com
Irritating, isn't it? There's nothing 'visual' about Visual C++. Complete misnomer. Visual Basic has some justification for its name - VC++ has none.