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  • A Alvaro Mendez

    kgaddy wrote:

    ABCNEWS PLANS AIRING OF SADDAM TAPES TONIGHT: Saddam talking with his advisors about hitting Washington with WMD, hiding weapons, etc... Developing...

    Wow! So could this mean that ABC is not the liberal media? How does that compare to this: Cheney to have Fox interview at 2 p.m.[^] Instead of speaking in a public forum, he does a taped interview with Fox News. Lovely. :suss: Alvaro


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    Red Stateler
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    Alvaro Mendez wrote:

    Wow! So could this mean that ABC is not the liberal media?

    Let's see how they spin it. :cool: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11299205/site/newsweek/[^]

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    • A Alvaro Mendez

      kgaddy wrote:

      Actually, Fox has covered it.

      Good, good! I was actually wondering why Fox hadn't covered this, but since you were wondering if the "media" was going to continue ignoring this issue, I figured they hadn't. Oh, wait, now I get! :doh: FoxNews is not the media. Well thankfully, you're right about that! ;P


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      Alvaro Mendez wrote:

      you were wondering if the "media" was going to continue ignoring this issue

      IIRC, I read this "news" for the first time weeks ago.


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      • A Alvaro Mendez

        kgaddy wrote:

        ABCNEWS PLANS AIRING OF SADDAM TAPES TONIGHT: Saddam talking with his advisors about hitting Washington with WMD, hiding weapons, etc... Developing...

        Wow! So could this mean that ABC is not the liberal media? How does that compare to this: Cheney to have Fox interview at 2 p.m.[^] Instead of speaking in a public forum, he does a taped interview with Fox News. Lovely. :suss: Alvaro


        ... now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet

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        Why should he do a live interview? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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        • A Alvaro Mendez

          kgaddy wrote:

          Maybe you need to do some research

          Maybe you need to look at reality[^]. The U.S. media are rapidly being monopolized by a dwindling number of parent corporations, all of whom have conservative economic agendas. The media are also critically dependent upon corporations for advertising. As a result, the news almost completely ignores corporate crime, as well as pro-labor and pro-consumer issues. .... Conservatives often promote the myth that the U.S. media are liberal. This myth serves several purposes: it raises public skepticism about liberal news stories, hides conservative bias when it appears, and goads the media to the right. GOP strategist William Kristol also reveals another reason: "I admit it: the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures." (1) In unguarded moments, however, even far-right figures like Pat Buchanan come clean: "The truth is, I've gotten fairer, more comprehensive coverage of my ideas than I ever imagined I would receive." He further conceded: "I've gotten balanced coverage and broad coverage -- all we could have asked… For heaven sakes, we kid about the liberal media, but every Republican on earth does that."


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          You have to be kidding me. I cite a university study, and you cite, drum roll please....WELCOME TO STEVE KANGAS' WEB PAGE! My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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            Why should he do a live interview? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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            So that it can go like this: Dan Rather: Dick, why did you attempt to murder this person? Dick Cheney: I didn't try to m... Dan Rather: Is it because you found out that he was switching parties? Dick Cheney: He was switching parties? What? Dan Rather: Yes, he was. Is that the reason you tried to kill him in much the same way you try to kill Democracy in America? Dick Cheney: Hey now Dan. I thought this was about my hunting accident. Where did you hear he was switching parties. He never told me. Dan Rather: (Squiggles on some paper and presents it to Cheney) Here, Dick. Right here. This piece of paper is signed by your friend. It says, "I are quitting the partie becuze your bad!" Dick Cheney: You just wrote that on that piece of paper. Dan Rather: No I didn't. And now we break to our sponsor MoveOn.Org.

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              kgaddy wrote:

              If this turns out to be true, will the media still continue to ignore it?

              Because if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle. Who is this general[^]? Is there any chance that the Butcher of Basra tries to deflect the attention and the blame?

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              K(arl) wrote:

              Who is this general[^]? Is there any chance that the Butcher of Basra tries to deflect the attention and the blame?

              Actually no. Saddam Hussein's No. 2 Air Force officer, Georges Sada My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                So that it can go like this: Dan Rather: Dick, why did you attempt to murder this person? Dick Cheney: I didn't try to m... Dan Rather: Is it because you found out that he was switching parties? Dick Cheney: He was switching parties? What? Dan Rather: Yes, he was. Is that the reason you tried to kill him in much the same way you try to kill Democracy in America? Dick Cheney: Hey now Dan. I thought this was about my hunting accident. Where did you hear he was switching parties. He never told me. Dan Rather: (Squiggles on some paper and presents it to Cheney) Here, Dick. Right here. This piece of paper is signed by your friend. It says, "I are quitting the partie becuze your bad!" Dick Cheney: You just wrote that on that piece of paper. Dan Rather: No I didn't. And now we break to our sponsor MoveOn.Org.

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                kgaddy
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                Nice. Can I reprint that? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                • A Alvaro Mendez

                  kgaddy wrote:

                  Maybe you need to do some research

                  Maybe you need to look at reality[^]. The U.S. media are rapidly being monopolized by a dwindling number of parent corporations, all of whom have conservative economic agendas. The media are also critically dependent upon corporations for advertising. As a result, the news almost completely ignores corporate crime, as well as pro-labor and pro-consumer issues. .... Conservatives often promote the myth that the U.S. media are liberal. This myth serves several purposes: it raises public skepticism about liberal news stories, hides conservative bias when it appears, and goads the media to the right. GOP strategist William Kristol also reveals another reason: "I admit it: the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures." (1) In unguarded moments, however, even far-right figures like Pat Buchanan come clean: "The truth is, I've gotten fairer, more comprehensive coverage of my ideas than I ever imagined I would receive." He further conceded: "I've gotten balanced coverage and broad coverage -- all we could have asked… For heaven sakes, we kid about the liberal media, but every Republican on earth does that."


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                  Stan Shannon
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                  That is laughable. 30 years ago all of the media in the US was controlled by 3 and only 3 corportaions - ABC,CBS and NBC, all committed to precisely the same left leaning view of the space time continuum. We now have the most diverse media in history. The competition is driving the left to absolute lunacy. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                    You have to be kidding me. I cite a university study, and you cite, drum roll please....WELCOME TO STEVE KANGAS' WEB PAGE! My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                    Stan Shannon
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                    That site certainly proves that the goal of modern liberalism is actually socialism. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                      That is laughable. 30 years ago all of the media in the US was controlled by 3 and only 3 corportaions - ABC,CBS and NBC, all committed to precisely the same left leaning view of the space time continuum. We now have the most diverse media in history. The competition is driving the left to absolute lunacy. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                      You left out the New York Times!

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                      • K kgaddy

                        If this turns out to be true, will the media still continue to ignore it? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                        S Becker
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                        This is a photo of Area51. http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&hl=en&ll=37.233566,-115.814561&spn=0.001802,0.003659&t=k It is for civil use. I have seen public photos at google maps where you where able to detect the type of a car. What do you think is possible with a military us satellite? I think they were able to see if Saddam is wearing a brown and a black shoe at the same time. I bet before the war started there was a military satellite over iraq for years. So i think they knew there where no more WMDs.

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                        • S Stan Shannon

                          That site certainly proves that the goal of modern liberalism is actually socialism. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                          kgaddy
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                          I liked ""Why Socialism?" by Albert Einstein" That's my question. Why? why? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                            This is a photo of Area51. http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&hl=en&ll=37.233566,-115.814561&spn=0.001802,0.003659&t=k It is for civil use. I have seen public photos at google maps where you where able to detect the type of a car. What do you think is possible with a military us satellite? I think they were able to see if Saddam is wearing a brown and a black shoe at the same time. I bet before the war started there was a military satellite over iraq for years. So i think they knew there where no more WMDs.

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                            kgaddy
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                            Well you can certainly fool a satellite. For one thing the general said they used commerical airliners. Do you know what commerical airliners look like from a satellite? You guessed it, commerical airliners. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                              You have to be kidding me. I cite a university study, and you cite, drum roll please....WELCOME TO STEVE KANGAS' WEB PAGE! My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                              David Wulff
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                              That carries the same weight as having a conversation with you.


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                                K(arl) wrote:

                                Who is this general[^]? Is there any chance that the Butcher of Basra tries to deflect the attention and the blame?

                                Actually no. Saddam Hussein's No. 2 Air Force officer, Georges Sada My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                David Wulff
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                                Is that the same Georges Hormiz Sada who has been plugging his new book for the last few weeks... You know, his book on Saddam's secret weapons of mass destruction that where smuggled out of Iraq through Syria... Based on what he overheard other pilots chatting about in the mess hall... The same Georges Sada who when asked directly if Saddam *really* moved any weapons of any destruction to Syria under the cover of aid relief has only ever answered with "I think so"... I think Steve Kangas would make a better case witness.


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                                  That carries the same weight as having a conversation with you.


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                                  kgaddy
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                                  ...ok My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                    Why should he do a live interview? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                    Alvaro Mendez
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                                    kgaddy wrote:

                                    Why should he do a live interview?

                                    And why not? He should do a live press conference where he can answer all questions from the media -- the voice of the American public. Maybe you forgot, but we pay his freaking salary. Please don't tell me you find nothing strange with him doing a taped interview with his fair and balanced friends at FoxNews. Why is he so afraid of the "MSM"?


                                    ... now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet -- modified at 16:53 Wednesday 15th February, 2006

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                                    • A Alvaro Mendez

                                      kgaddy wrote:

                                      Why should he do a live interview?

                                      And why not? He should do a live press conference where he can answer all questions from the media -- the voice of the American public. Maybe you forgot, but we pay his freaking salary. Please don't tell me you find nothing strange with him doing a taped interview with his fair and balanced friends at FoxNews. Why is he so afraid of the "MSM"?


                                      ... now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet -- modified at 16:53 Wednesday 15th February, 2006

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                                      kgaddy
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                                      Yes we pay his salary, but the leftist reporters, do not. He gave a statement explaining what happened. What else do you want? This has nothing to do with the accident but more to do with the left's hatred of chenny. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                        So that it can go like this: Dan Rather: Dick, why did you attempt to murder this person? Dick Cheney: I didn't try to m... Dan Rather: Is it because you found out that he was switching parties? Dick Cheney: He was switching parties? What? Dan Rather: Yes, he was. Is that the reason you tried to kill him in much the same way you try to kill Democracy in America? Dick Cheney: Hey now Dan. I thought this was about my hunting accident. Where did you hear he was switching parties. He never told me. Dan Rather: (Squiggles on some paper and presents it to Cheney) Here, Dick. Right here. This piece of paper is signed by your friend. It says, "I are quitting the partie becuze your bad!" Dick Cheney: You just wrote that on that piece of paper. Dan Rather: No I didn't. And now we break to our sponsor MoveOn.Org.

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                                        Alvaro Mendez
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                                        Your fantasy is very amusing. Imaging that, the evil Dan Rather (who retired a long time ago) going down on the fluffy, huggable, compassionate, go-f*ck-yourself VP. So I take it you don't find anything strange with the way they've handled this whole incident. Why all the secrecy? Why can't he come forward in a normal fashion and put this thing behind him? Are they just so used to lying and covering up that they can't come clean on something that, according to people like you, is a non-issue?


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                                          Is that the same Georges Hormiz Sada who has been plugging his new book for the last few weeks... You know, his book on Saddam's secret weapons of mass destruction that where smuggled out of Iraq through Syria... Based on what he overheard other pilots chatting about in the mess hall... The same Georges Sada who when asked directly if Saddam *really* moved any weapons of any destruction to Syria under the cover of aid relief has only ever answered with "I think so"... I think Steve Kangas would make a better case witness.


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                                          kgaddy
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                                          David Wulff wrote:

                                          Based on what he overheard other pilots chatting about in the mess hall...

                                          Nice try, he did not overhear anything. He knows the pilots personally. and not only that, Israeli Inteligence said the same thing before Sada came out: "Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

                                          David Wulff wrote:

                                          The same Georges Sada who when asked directly if Saddam *really* moved any weapons of any destruction to Syria under the cover of aid relief has only ever answered with "I think so"...

                                          Got a link? My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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