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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    I was looking at the live.com[^]'s new search feature with the sliders. :rolleyes: As a developer I can say WOW on the way the have developed it. But as a user I am not sure whether that is what I want. Is it really necessary to use AJAX everywhere just becuase you can? What do you guys think?


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      I was looking at the live.com[^]'s new search feature with the sliders. :rolleyes: As a developer I can say WOW on the way the have developed it. But as a user I am not sure whether that is what I want. Is it really necessary to use AJAX everywhere just becuase you can? What do you guys think?


      My Blog -- modified at 13:50 Wednesday 8th March, 2006

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      Nish Nishant
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      What's the URL? Regards, Nish


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        What's the URL? Regards, Nish


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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        http://www.live.com[^]


        My Blog

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          I was looking at the live.com[^]'s new search feature with the sliders. :rolleyes: As a developer I can say WOW on the way the have developed it. But as a user I am not sure whether that is what I want. Is it really necessary to use AJAX everywhere just becuase you can? What do you guys think?


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          Steve McLenithan
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          The AJAX is impressive, but as a user I hate it. My browser should not be spiking my CPU just so they can have a fancy GUI.

          Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            I was looking at the live.com[^]'s new search feature with the sliders. :rolleyes: As a developer I can say WOW on the way the have developed it. But as a user I am not sure whether that is what I want. Is it really necessary to use AJAX everywhere just becuase you can? What do you guys think?


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            Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar
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            looks cool, too bad it froze up on me, LMAO i moved a few things around, then I clicked on gadgets to open it, and it froze like a pig on a skewer.

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              I was looking at the live.com[^]'s new search feature with the sliders. :rolleyes: As a developer I can say WOW on the way the have developed it. But as a user I am not sure whether that is what I want. Is it really necessary to use AJAX everywhere just becuase you can? What do you guys think?


              My Blog -- modified at 13:50 Wednesday 8th March, 2006

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              Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar
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              do a search and leave the field blank.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                I was looking at the live.com[^]'s new search feature with the sliders. :rolleyes: As a developer I can say WOW on the way the have developed it. But as a user I am not sure whether that is what I want. Is it really necessary to use AJAX everywhere just becuase you can? What do you guys think?


                My Blog -- modified at 13:50 Wednesday 8th March, 2006

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                Shog9 0
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                The image search has some nice touches. I really like it. The rest just seems gratuitous. Loading results on the fly is nice enough, but why exactly was it necessary to use fancy custom scrollbars? ----

                Bots don't know when people die. --Paul Watson, RIP

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                  do a search and leave the field blank.

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                  Ohyeah, that's what i've been missing from search engines all these years... unecessary modal pop-ups. ----

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                    The AJAX is impressive, but as a user I hate it. My browser should not be spiking my CPU just so they can have a fancy GUI.

                    Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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                    Judah Gabriel Himango
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                    Steve McLenithan wrote:

                    My browser should not be spiking my CPU

                    I've never understood this kind of thinking. If you're not using the browser, its not going to spike, meaning you're not really interfering with other apps. And if it spikes for just a split second, nothing's going to be sluggish. Are you trying to preserve CPU cycles for some reason? :rolleyes: I fail to see the big deal, but I'm sure you can enlighten me. As for the feature itself. It's cool but useless and nonstandard. That said, never underestimate the importance of eye candy, polish, and the cool factor. Its something that immediately draws the notice and awe of users, something that can't be said of stability or features (and no, I'm not advocating eye candy over those things).

                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Lent Revisited The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                      http://www.live.com[^]


                      My Blog

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      Thanks Rama. Regards, Nish


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                        The image search has some nice touches. I really like it. The rest just seems gratuitous. Loading results on the fly is nice enough, but why exactly was it necessary to use fancy custom scrollbars? ----

                        Bots don't know when people die. --Paul Watson, RIP

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                        Judah Gabriel Himango
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                        Shog9 wrote:

                        but why exactly was it necessary to use fancy custom scrollbars?

                        I think I may have just discovered the reason. The advertisements on the right will update depending on what search results are currently in view. This would've been rather difficult or impossible to do, I think, had a standard scrollbar been in place. Of course, I'm not a web developer so maybe I'm wrong about how difficult that is...

                        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Lent Revisited The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                          Ohyeah, that's what i've been missing from search engines all these years... unecessary modal pop-ups. ----

                          Bots don't know when people die. --Paul Watson, RIP

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                          Warren Stevens
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                          Shog9 wrote:

                          modal pop-ups.

                          What a Horrendous design. :wtf::wtf::wtf: X|

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                            Shog9 wrote:

                            but why exactly was it necessary to use fancy custom scrollbars?

                            I think I may have just discovered the reason. The advertisements on the right will update depending on what search results are currently in view. This would've been rather difficult or impossible to do, I think, had a standard scrollbar been in place. Of course, I'm not a web developer so maybe I'm wrong about how difficult that is...

                            Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Lent Revisited The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                            I doubt it was easy either way. The only thing i could come up with was that with their custom scrollbar, they can control the speed at which you can scroll - so results loaded on demand are always available by the time you get to where they should be. Of course, this is also what makes it so frustrating, since the scrolling speed (especially with the mouse wheel) seems "off". ----

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                              Thanks Rama. Regards, Nish


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                              David Stone
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                              Feeling a little slow today, Nish? :rolleyes:

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                                Steve McLenithan wrote:

                                My browser should not be spiking my CPU

                                I've never understood this kind of thinking. If you're not using the browser, its not going to spike, meaning you're not really interfering with other apps. And if it spikes for just a split second, nothing's going to be sluggish. Are you trying to preserve CPU cycles for some reason? :rolleyes: I fail to see the big deal, but I'm sure you can enlighten me. As for the feature itself. It's cool but useless and nonstandard. That said, never underestimate the importance of eye candy, polish, and the cool factor. Its something that immediately draws the notice and awe of users, something that can't be said of stability or features (and no, I'm not advocating eye candy over those things).

                                Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Lent Revisited The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                                Steve McLenithan
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                                Judah Himango wrote:

                                I've never understood this kind of thinking.

                                Anyone that multi-tasks should think about it. My CPU should NOT spike to 100% because of some damn website. Burning a disc, music, etc etc. There's nothing I hate more than the feeling of UI lag.

                                Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.

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                                  Feeling a little slow today, Nish? :rolleyes:

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  David Stone wrote:

                                  Feeling a little slow today, Nish?

                                  I went to live.com first, and didn't find anything fancy like he said, and thought there must be some other search specific URL. Then he replies with live.com again, so I thanked him for that though I still couldn't find anything very impressive. Someone posted another link here a few weeks ago, and that was much cooler than this. The windows could be dragged anywhere, just like on your desktop. live.com restricts window positioning to rectangular dock regions - which sucks! That other site allowed overlapping windows - and was seriously impressive. Regards, Nish


                                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                                    David Stone wrote:

                                    Feeling a little slow today, Nish?

                                    I went to live.com first, and didn't find anything fancy like he said, and thought there must be some other search specific URL. Then he replies with live.com again, so I thanked him for that though I still couldn't find anything very impressive. Someone posted another link here a few weeks ago, and that was much cooler than this. The windows could be dragged anywhere, just like on your desktop. live.com restricts window positioning to rectangular dock regions - which sucks! That other site allowed overlapping windows - and was seriously impressive. Regards, Nish


                                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                    The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!

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                                    David Stone
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                                    That's alright. Go drink some Espresso. ;) (Just make sure Smitha didn't mix up the salt and sugar again.*) *Sorry Smitha. But you know you're never going to hear the end of this.

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                                      That's alright. Go drink some Espresso. ;) (Just make sure Smitha didn't mix up the salt and sugar again.*) *Sorry Smitha. But you know you're never going to hear the end of this.

                                      They dress you up in white satin, And give you your very own pair of wings In August and Everything After

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      David Stone wrote:

                                      Go drink some Espresso.

                                      Having a Latte (I think it's one anyway) right now :-)

                                      David Stone wrote:

                                      Just make sure Smitha didn't mix up the salt and sugar again

                                      Ravi Bhavnani gave her Salt and Pepper shakers, and told her to keep me alive till I get to attend a PDC someday :-) Regards, Nish


                                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                                        David Stone wrote:

                                        Go drink some Espresso.

                                        Having a Latte (I think it's one anyway) right now :-)

                                        David Stone wrote:

                                        Just make sure Smitha didn't mix up the salt and sugar again

                                        Ravi Bhavnani gave her Salt and Pepper shakers, and told her to keep me alive till I get to attend a PDC someday :-) Regards, Nish


                                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                        The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!

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                                        David Stone
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                                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                        till I get to attend a PDC someday

                                        Ah. This last PDC was a crapload of fun. I hope to be able to attend the next one (whenever that is) too. :)

                                        They dress you up in white satin, And give you your very own pair of wings In August and Everything After

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                                          Steve McLenithan wrote:

                                          My browser should not be spiking my CPU

                                          I've never understood this kind of thinking. If you're not using the browser, its not going to spike, meaning you're not really interfering with other apps. And if it spikes for just a split second, nothing's going to be sluggish. Are you trying to preserve CPU cycles for some reason? :rolleyes: I fail to see the big deal, but I'm sure you can enlighten me. As for the feature itself. It's cool but useless and nonstandard. That said, never underestimate the importance of eye candy, polish, and the cool factor. Its something that immediately draws the notice and awe of users, something that can't be said of stability or features (and no, I'm not advocating eye candy over those things).

                                          Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Lent Revisited The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                                          Kevin McFarlane
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                                          Judah Himango wrote:

                                          never underestimate the importance of eye candy, polish, and the cool factor.

                                          It's one of the main (and underrated, especially by techies) reasons, IMO, why MS has been so successful. Many technically superior things have been either ugly and/or difficult to use. Kevin

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