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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    I see that some people got hold of beta(alpha?) versions of Office 12. I am interested in knowing whether it still uses C++ or they have moved to .NET for their primary UI. I expect that it will be a mixture but what are the exes themshleves: Win32 or .NET or do they use C++\CLI.


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    I believe they're all 100% native code. I know Word only recently moved from pure C to C++. Charlie if(!curlies){ return; }

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      I see that some people got hold of beta(alpha?) versions of Office 12. I am interested in knowing whether it still uses C++ or they have moved to .NET for their primary UI. I expect that it will be a mixture but what are the exes themshleves: Win32 or .NET or do they use C++\CLI.


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      Judah Gabriel Himango
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      They're all native (hey, why re-write a perfectly fine codebase? If it ain't broke, don't fix it, as they say). There are some optional add-ins that are managed (some Outlook add-ins come to mind), and they also ship with .NET interop assemblies (that is, dlls that allow communication between CLR languages and the native codebase). I've read over at WinSuperSite that Windows Defender (previously "Microsoft Anti-Spyware" which was VB6) was built from the ground up in managed C++. But after trying out the beta, it appears upon investigation it is all native as well. So much for MS dogfooding! :) Though I suppose they do have a good share of managed apps now, everything from Visual Studio to BizTalk...will be interesting to see what's managed, if anything, in Vista. With the principle API, WinFX, being managed, I imagine we'll have lots of managed apps when Vista comes around.

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        I see that some people got hold of beta(alpha?) versions of Office 12. I am interested in knowing whether it still uses C++ or they have moved to .NET for their primary UI. I expect that it will be a mixture but what are the exes themshleves: Win32 or .NET or do they use C++\CLI.


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        BTW, Is it Office 12 or Office 2007?

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        • K Kant

          BTW, Is it Office 12 or Office 2007?

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          Charlie Williams
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          Office 12 was the codename. Office 2007 is official. (Actually, it's something like Microsoft Office System 2007 or some such thing.) Charlie if(!curlies){ return; }

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          • K Kant

            BTW, Is it Office 12 or Office 2007?

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            Didn't you know- Office is done. It's complete. It doesn't need to work any better than it has for the last few years. Is there any true competitor to Office? Nope, not yet. Hmmmm.... Jim

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              BTW, Is it Office 12 or Office 2007?

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              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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              The major product version has to be 12.0 (like VS 2005 it is 8) irrespective of the actual name: Office Vista, Office 2007 or Office 2008.


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              • J Jim Bennett

                Didn't you know- Office is done. It's complete. It doesn't need to work any better than it has for the last few years. Is there any true competitor to Office? Nope, not yet. Hmmmm.... Jim

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                Jim Bennett wrote:

                It doesn't need to work any better than it has for the last few years.

                Yeah it does. Outlook Search, for instance, has sucked for the last few years. In Outlook 2007 it works perfectly. And the UI improvements in Office 2007 are great.

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                • D David Stone

                  Jim Bennett wrote:

                  It doesn't need to work any better than it has for the last few years.

                  Yeah it does. Outlook Search, for instance, has sucked for the last few years. In Outlook 2007 it works perfectly. And the UI improvements in Office 2007 are great.

                  They dress you up in white satin, And give you your very own pair of wings In August and Everything After

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                  David Stone wrote:

                  In Outlook 2007 it works perfectly.

                  Heh. Not that i don't respect you, David, but i'm really gonna have to see that one before i'll believe it.

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                    David Stone wrote:

                    In Outlook 2007 it works perfectly.

                    Heh. Not that i don't respect you, David, but i'm really gonna have to see that one before i'll believe it.

                    Now taking suggestions for the next release of CPhog...

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                    David Stone
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                    I was skeptical too. But it's awesome. I haven't had to install a search plugin at all. Very spiffy.

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                    • J Jim Bennett

                      Didn't you know- Office is done. It's complete. It doesn't need to work any better than it has for the last few years. Is there any true competitor to Office? Nope, not yet. Hmmmm.... Jim

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                      Jim Bennett wrote:

                      Is there any true competitor to Office? Nope, not yet.

                      Was there a true competitor to IE? Nope... but we saw what happened there. Matt Newman
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                      • D David Stone

                        Jim Bennett wrote:

                        It doesn't need to work any better than it has for the last few years.

                        Yeah it does. Outlook Search, for instance, has sucked for the last few years. In Outlook 2007 it works perfectly. And the UI improvements in Office 2007 are great.

                        They dress you up in white satin, And give you your very own pair of wings In August and Everything After

                        I'm after everything

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                        Screw Outlook's search feature. I just blows. I switched to Copernic Desktop Search[^] and haven't looked back. I am able to IMMEDIATELY find things. Blows Outlook search away. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                        • B Brigg Thorp

                          Screw Outlook's search feature. I just blows. I switched to Copernic Desktop Search[^] and haven't looked back. I am able to IMMEDIATELY find things. Blows Outlook search away. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                          Previous version of Outlook search did blow. Outlook 2007 includes the technology they bought from Lookout[^]. It's great.

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                            Previous version of Outlook search did blow. Outlook 2007 includes the technology they bought from Lookout[^]. It's great.

                            They dress you up in white satin, And give you your very own pair of wings In August and Everything After

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                            David Stone wrote:

                            Outlook 2007 includes the technology they bought from Lookout[^]. It's great.

                            I use Lookout and rocks. It's 1000% times better than Outlook search. It's good that Microsoft bought Lookout and integrated in Outlook 2007.

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                            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                              I see that some people got hold of beta(alpha?) versions of Office 12. I am interested in knowing whether it still uses C++ or they have moved to .NET for their primary UI. I expect that it will be a mixture but what are the exes themshleves: Win32 or .NET or do they use C++\CLI.


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                              Even Microsoft are not that stupid :doh: It's only us (and by extension any possible competition) they want to waste our lives trying to write applications in .NET X|

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