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  • E Emma Burrows

    Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)

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    Nish Nishant
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    Good heavens! Till Smitha pointed it out to me, I hadn't noticed that the thread starter is a woman! I didn't notice the name :) Regards, Nish


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    • M Michael P Butler

      CP has a number of high-profile female contributors, (I'm not going to name them all because I usually forget a name (hi Corrine) and feel bad about it) Like you say, development is usually male dominated. Over my 18 year career I've only worked with about seven female developers and a couple of women managers. A shame there aren't more, as in my experience they seem to have a more balanced approach to development. They knew their techie stuff but still managed to have a good life outside of the work. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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      Nish Nishant
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      Michael P Butler wrote:

      I usually forget a name (hi Corrine)

      I bet you are in trouble now for misspelling her name! :rolleyes: Regards, Nish


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      • E Emma Burrows

        Cool rule. :laugh: The rule here seems to be that you can be a developer as long as your name is "Paul" (3 of them). The Development team in my previous job did count three Steves, though - one-third of the team. However, in both cases, calculating the ratio of any given male name to the number of female developers is academic; there are none!

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        peterchen
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        I already wondered as we have neither a Steve nor a female developer: is this a violation of the rule? (But one of the developers is called Stefan, which is close enough I think)


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        • E Emma Burrows

          Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)

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          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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          Hi Emma, We're here alright...just too busy to write as much as we'd like. I know a few female CP members who are "below the radar" due to work or family commitments, but as you say, its a male dominated profession. :rose: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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            The Steve Rule[^]


            Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
            Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighist

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            hairy_hats
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            :laugh: Here our developers are 100% Steve (i.e. me) and no women. :sigh:

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            • E Emma Burrows

              Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)

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              Stan Shannon
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              I've never actually met a 'lady' programmer. "You get that which you tolerate"

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              • C Chris Maunder

                About 2 years ago it was 4.34%[^] the fairer sex. I actually wonder what it is that makes it male dominated? Is it a typical "engineering" type thing? Or are guys the only ones daft enough to want to stare at a screen for 12 hours going cross eyed trying to find that bug? I've never actually heard an explanation (that doesn't rely on the fallback of "genetics") that makes sense. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                Emma Burrows
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                I actually wonder what it is that makes it male dominated? Is it a typical "engineering" type thing? I think there is a gender divide when it comes to what interests most women as opposed to most men. Networking with other people in an admin, marketing or management position is probably more attractive to most women than development, which usually requires limited social contact and detailed knowledge of abstract technical concepts. Of course, there are exceptions; personally, I love developing because it means I can bend my computer to my will. ;P

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                • E Emma Burrows

                  Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)

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                  Dario Solera
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                  In my University section (Computer Science Engineering) and specifically in my class we have somthing like 6 or 7 women out of 150 studends total. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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                  • R Ryan Binns

                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                    I counted 3 in the top 100 posters.

                    That may possibly be because they tend to talk a lot ;)

                    Ryan

                    "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                    Roger Stoltz
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                    Ryan Binns wrote:

                    That may possibly be because they tend to talk a lot

                    Quit calling me feminin or I'll hit you with my hand bag. :)


                    It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      About 2 years ago it was 4.34%[^] the fairer sex. I actually wonder what it is that makes it male dominated? Is it a typical "engineering" type thing? Or are guys the only ones daft enough to want to stare at a screen for 12 hours going cross eyed trying to find that bug? I've never actually heard an explanation (that doesn't rely on the fallback of "genetics") that makes sense. cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                      My theory is that there's no interaction. Men tend to prefer solace more than women. On the other hand, the number of women online has increased a lot in the last few years because of the ability and availability to interact with other people. Programming is a lonely man's career. :) "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        I've never actually met a 'lady' programmer. "You get that which you tolerate"

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        I've never actually met a 'lady' programmer.

                        :laugh: Regards, Nish


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                        • E Emma Burrows

                          Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)

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                          The definition of "female" is stretched a little thin here... Some are, some aren't - females, I mean. Not trying to be mean-spirited, just stating facts as I know them... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          • E Emma Burrows

                            I actually wonder what it is that makes it male dominated? Is it a typical "engineering" type thing? I think there is a gender divide when it comes to what interests most women as opposed to most men. Networking with other people in an admin, marketing or management position is probably more attractive to most women than development, which usually requires limited social contact and detailed knowledge of abstract technical concepts. Of course, there are exceptions; personally, I love developing because it means I can bend my computer to my will. ;P

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                            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                            Emma Burrows wrote:

                            I think there is a gender divide when it comes to what interests most women as opposed to most men. Networking with other people in an admin, marketing or management position is probably more attractive to most women than development, which usually requires limited social contact and detailed knowledge of abstract technical concepts.

                            Definitely. Although I love development, being tied to a desk full time drives me nuts! Perhaps that's why I've always preferred to be involved in a project on multiple levels - including liasing with customers and other departments - than purely sitting at a desk churning out code. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              About 2 years ago it was 4.34%[^] the fairer sex. I actually wonder what it is that makes it male dominated? Is it a typical "engineering" type thing? Or are guys the only ones daft enough to want to stare at a screen for 12 hours going cross eyed trying to find that bug? I've never actually heard an explanation (that doesn't rely on the fallback of "genetics") that makes sense. cheers, Chris Maunder

                              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                              I'm curious to see who CP lists as a "female". Afterall, we don't want to have any skew in the statistics... ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              • R Roger Stoltz

                                Ryan Binns wrote:

                                That may possibly be because they tend to talk a lot

                                Quit calling me feminin or I'll hit you with my hand bag. :)


                                It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!

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                                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                Hey don't knock it! A good handbag makes an excellent improvised umbrella for the sprint through the rain from car park to pub on a Friday lunchtime... ;P Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                • R Roger Stoltz

                                  Ryan Binns wrote:

                                  That may possibly be because they tend to talk a lot

                                  Quit calling me feminin or I'll hit you with my hand bag. :)


                                  It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!

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                                  Ryan Binns
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                                  Roger Stoltz wrote:

                                  Quit calling me feminin or I'll hit you with my hand bag.

                                  Certainly ma'am ;)

                                  Ryan

                                  "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                                    The Steve Rule[^]


                                    Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
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                                    stephen hazel
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                                    Well, I'm a Steve (and a developer) and I've found that rule to be true. It's sad. But true...

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                                      The Steve Rule[^]


                                      Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
                                      Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                                      In the history of our software group there has been one female, no steves. Admitedly we are still small, maybe a dozen plus who have wound their way through our department. No ladies at the moment, and no steves. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      • E Emma Burrows

                                        Just an idle question; how many women are there around here? CP is quite male-dominated - which reflects development in general, as I'd expect - but I presume there are some other female contributors? Just curious. :)

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                                        Henrik Husted
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                                        sorry, couldn't help myself as I have just watched an episode of Little Britain :)

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                                        • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                                          Emma Burrows wrote:

                                          I think there is a gender divide when it comes to what interests most women as opposed to most men. Networking with other people in an admin, marketing or management position is probably more attractive to most women than development, which usually requires limited social contact and detailed knowledge of abstract technical concepts.

                                          Definitely. Although I love development, being tied to a desk full time drives me nuts! Perhaps that's why I've always preferred to be involved in a project on multiple levels - including liasing with customers and other departments - than purely sitting at a desk churning out code. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                          Perhaps that's why I've always preferred to be involved in a project on multiple levels - including liasing with customers and other departments - than purely sitting at a desk churning out code.

                                          Same here, I prefer knowing the code is working, interacting with the customers, verifying optimal use, training, demoing, discussing algorithms, as well as coding and designing. The overall approach usually leads to better design on a functional and organizational level. But then we have nice customers, I just get used to blushing when our one female customer hugs. For a hermit, work is my primary human contact... just not accustomed when that contact involves physical contact. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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