Ungrateful people in CP programming forums?
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Greeeg wrote:
Is this anoyone of you also experienced or is it just me?
It's just you. I do not expect a reply to my answer if it is simply going to say "Thanks." That's just a waste IMO. If my answer was wrong or not helpful, then I would expect a reply (so that more help could be offered).
"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." - Mark Twain
"There is no death, only a change of worlds." - Native American Proverb
I disagree. When people post thanks, other people know that the solution posted actually *works*. This is important. When people search the messageboard for an answer it really, really, helps if the answer provided has helped somebody before. It can be very frustrating to follow somebody's advice only to find out later it could not possibly solve your problem. By saying 'thank you' you're not only being polite - you also save other people's time by confirming the solution's effectiveness. If you came up with another solution to the problem then that's worth posting too.
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Hey everybody! Recently I've been helping out quite a bit in the C# forums - sometimes I give short but precise answers, sometimes I take the time to explain in more detail, But I noticed over the last few months that more and more people simply don't reply at all after their question has been answered. I don't care if they just reply "thanks", "that helped" or "fuck you moron!", but at least it shows me they care about what I write. Is this anoyone of you also experienced or is it just me? Do I smell bad or is my english as comprehensible as latin for these people? Share your observations :)
Greeeg wrote:
I don't care if they just reply "thanks", "that helped" or "f*** you moron!", but at least it shows me they care about what I write.
I'd rather not get replies unless they have further questions (for instance, because i did such a bad job of explaining things in my reply) or they have something interesting to relate. The voting buttons are there for a reason.
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
I'm the opposite: I find it very annoying when people give a trivial response to a post I've made.
And that's the reason I often don't respond unless I feel it's necessary to assure the answering poster and the other members of the forum that further replies aren't necessary. I used to get slammed back in the days of BBSs for wasting magnetic real estate and bandwidth with "thank you"s. Of course, space isn't at the premium it used to be and neither is the bandwidth. Lilith
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Hey everybody! Recently I've been helping out quite a bit in the C# forums - sometimes I give short but precise answers, sometimes I take the time to explain in more detail, But I noticed over the last few months that more and more people simply don't reply at all after their question has been answered. I don't care if they just reply "thanks", "that helped" or "fuck you moron!", but at least it shows me they care about what I write. Is this anoyone of you also experienced or is it just me? Do I smell bad or is my english as comprehensible as latin for these people? Share your observations :)
It could be that they figured out their problem on their own, got an answer someplace else, or even forgot that they asked the question here in the first place. It could also be that your answers just plain suck big hairy donkey root. Of course, logical conclusions are always trumped by panties-in-a-wad-verbal-flailing and other means to make one's self appear to be a complete jackass. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -- modified at 14:08 Monday 10th April, 2006
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You get the same problem everywhere, to be honest. People post questions first, without bothering to do any research themselves. All they care about is getting an answer as quickly as possible, they have no interest in giving anything back to the community. A while ago, somebody posted a link that describes it perfectly (sorry, can't remember who it was!) Help Vampires: A Spotter's Guide[^] -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
:-> Nice of you to remember!! :doh:I mean I posted the thread! I'm not ungrateful!! *Heads off to see all the posts to say thank you*
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You get the same problem everywhere, to be honest. People post questions first, without bothering to do any research themselves. All they care about is getting an answer as quickly as possible, they have no interest in giving anything back to the community. A while ago, somebody posted a link that describes it perfectly (sorry, can't remember who it was!) Help Vampires: A Spotter's Guide[^] -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
benjymous wrote:
People post questions first, without bothering to do any research themselves.
Actually, I often do both. Sometimes the research turns up an answer, sometimes not. Either way I try to acknowledge the help or provide the answer if I've discovered it myself. Kevin
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Hey everybody! Recently I've been helping out quite a bit in the C# forums - sometimes I give short but precise answers, sometimes I take the time to explain in more detail, But I noticed over the last few months that more and more people simply don't reply at all after their question has been answered. I don't care if they just reply "thanks", "that helped" or "fuck you moron!", but at least it shows me they care about what I write. Is this anoyone of you also experienced or is it just me? Do I smell bad or is my english as comprehensible as latin for these people? Share your observations :)
I personally am *SO* guilty of doing just that. Let me explain why it happens. Now you need to visualize a bit to really understand. 1. Me sweating my @RSE off trying to fix something or get something working. It won't work. 2. Desperation sets in. Haven't eaten in days. Bathing was stopped a while ago. Just finger-lock on the keyboard... 3. Suddenly you grasp what the problem is but HOLY-FRUMPING-BAT-MATING-CAMELS how are you going to fix that!!!???!!!???!!! 4. I'll post it at CP. But wait I'm desperate. I'll cross-post it at CP 10 times and twice in the lounge just to piss off everyone (Except Jim Crafton and Jim your loyalty is noted, check is in the mail.) 5. Moderators remove your other 9 cross-posts (EEEEEUUUUUWWWW Those HEATHENS!!! Curse their children.) 6. Now it's just you and your one post left all to itself to try and get you help. 7. What ho! Colin Angus Mackay has replied. You rush to the post to see what your salvation will be. 8. WTF!!! All he has to say is I forgot my semi-colon?!?!?!?! (Colin is good with the Grammar and Punctuation as it turns out. Watch out for him and Paul Watson). 9. You angrily storm back to your code knowing full well a semi-colon is *NOT* the problem. (Those wise jerks are screwing with you and you know it.) 10. The semi-colon works. 11. Holy bat-mating-camels the semi-colon works!!! 12. Now you have approximately 4 hours to make up 4 days worth of lost coding. 13. You charge right into coding because you have to save the world. And that's how it happens. I swear on my grand-mothers grave. It gets me every time. :laugh:
The enemy's gate is down. :cool: Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog[^] now.
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I personally am *SO* guilty of doing just that. Let me explain why it happens. Now you need to visualize a bit to really understand. 1. Me sweating my @RSE off trying to fix something or get something working. It won't work. 2. Desperation sets in. Haven't eaten in days. Bathing was stopped a while ago. Just finger-lock on the keyboard... 3. Suddenly you grasp what the problem is but HOLY-FRUMPING-BAT-MATING-CAMELS how are you going to fix that!!!???!!!???!!! 4. I'll post it at CP. But wait I'm desperate. I'll cross-post it at CP 10 times and twice in the lounge just to piss off everyone (Except Jim Crafton and Jim your loyalty is noted, check is in the mail.) 5. Moderators remove your other 9 cross-posts (EEEEEUUUUUWWWW Those HEATHENS!!! Curse their children.) 6. Now it's just you and your one post left all to itself to try and get you help. 7. What ho! Colin Angus Mackay has replied. You rush to the post to see what your salvation will be. 8. WTF!!! All he has to say is I forgot my semi-colon?!?!?!?! (Colin is good with the Grammar and Punctuation as it turns out. Watch out for him and Paul Watson). 9. You angrily storm back to your code knowing full well a semi-colon is *NOT* the problem. (Those wise jerks are screwing with you and you know it.) 10. The semi-colon works. 11. Holy bat-mating-camels the semi-colon works!!! 12. Now you have approximately 4 hours to make up 4 days worth of lost coding. 13. You charge right into coding because you have to save the world. And that's how it happens. I swear on my grand-mothers grave. It gets me every time. :laugh:
The enemy's gate is down. :cool: Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog[^] now.
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Interesting. A lot of people use those words and not much is said. I debated not using those words but I wanted to build some intensity. However, I should have trusted my instincts and changed the wording. Now with your comments, the wording has been changed to something a bit less caustic.:rose:
The enemy's gate is down. :cool: Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog[^] now.
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I disagree. When people post thanks, other people know that the solution posted actually *works*. This is important. When people search the messageboard for an answer it really, really, helps if the answer provided has helped somebody before. It can be very frustrating to follow somebody's advice only to find out later it could not possibly solve your problem. By saying 'thank you' you're not only being polite - you also save other people's time by confirming the solution's effectiveness. If you came up with another solution to the problem then that's worth posting too.
generic_user_id wrote:
When people search the messageboard for an answer
:wtf: They do!? Based on the number of times questions are repeated over and over and over, I doubt that anybody *ever* searches the message boards.
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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You get the same problem everywhere, to be honest. People post questions first, without bothering to do any research themselves. All they care about is getting an answer as quickly as possible, they have no interest in giving anything back to the community. A while ago, somebody posted a link that describes it perfectly (sorry, can't remember who it was!) Help Vampires: A Spotter's Guide[^] -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
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benjymous wrote:
People post questions first, without bothering to do any research themselves.
Actually, I often do both. Sometimes the research turns up an answer, sometimes not. Either way I try to acknowledge the help or provide the answer if I've discovered it myself. Kevin
But that's the difference. It's fine to post "I haven't managed to find anything useful, can someone tell me how to do xxxx" and then reply back five minutes later "Actually I found out myself, you need to cross the streams at 88mph" It's the people who have no intention of actually expending effort of their own, that bother me -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
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Interesting. A lot of people use those words and not much is said. I debated not using those words but I wanted to build some intensity. However, I should have trusted my instincts and changed the wording. Now with your comments, the wording has been changed to something a bit less caustic.:rose:
The enemy's gate is down. :cool: Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog[^] now.
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generic_user_id wrote:
When people search the messageboard for an answer
:wtf: They do!? Based on the number of times questions are repeated over and over and over, I doubt that anybody *ever* searches the message boards.
Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
You would see the impact if they didn't. There would be thousands instead of hundreds. I personally search first, and resort to asking only if I can't find it. And while I'm at it, I'll answer a question if its challenging and I understand it. The easy ones they can find on their own. ;P This statement is false.
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I prefer it with the bat-mating-camels... still trying to get the image out of my head. Those were swear words? I assumed it was a metaphor for frustration. How to communicate extreme emotion with in euphamistyc style? Sometimes there's no substitute for the real thing. This statement is false.
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I prefer it with the bat-mating-camels... still trying to get the image out of my head. Those were swear words? I assumed it was a metaphor for frustration. How to communicate extreme emotion with in euphamistyc style? Sometimes there's no substitute for the real thing. This statement is false.
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You would see the impact if they didn't. There would be thousands instead of hundreds. I personally search first, and resort to asking only if I can't find it. And while I'm at it, I'll answer a question if its challenging and I understand it. The easy ones they can find on their own. ;P This statement is false.
I have what has got to be a stupid question but I'm going to throw it out anyway. How do you search the lounge?
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Chris S Kaiser wrote:
Those were swear words?
I assume you didn't read it within about the first hour and a half. It was much different from the way it is now.
Nope. That I didn't, but I don't think my view would change. The right tool for the job I say. `8) This statement is false.
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I have what has got to be a stupid question but I'm going to throw it out anyway. How do you search the lounge?
Have you tried the search comments link above? `8) I know I said I would let them figure it [the easy ones] out themselves, but I couldn't resist. This statement is false.
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Have you tried the search comments link above? `8) I know I said I would let them figure it [the easy ones] out themselves, but I couldn't resist. This statement is false.
Woops. When I tried it I thought you had to select one of the items in the check boxes and the lounge wasn't one of them.:doh:
