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    Tom Archer
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    Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Anyway, since I've also designed and coded web sites, I wanted to know from you guys whether I'm being anal or do you consider this in bad taste? ESPN article Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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      Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Anyway, since I've also designed and coded web sites, I wanted to know from you guys whether I'm being anal or do you consider this in bad taste? ESPN article Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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      David Patrick
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      I did not experience the problem on the link you provided, but I have had it happen to me when I've used tvguide.com ... Is it crossing the line ? .. probably not. Is it smart .. definitely not. Its not a good idea to piss off your customer.

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        Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Anyway, since I've also designed and coded web sites, I wanted to know from you guys whether I'm being anal or do you consider this in bad taste? ESPN article Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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        David Wulff
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        Like the other David I did not get that "problem" with the ESPN site this time, although I have experienced it a few times in the past. As to whether it is crossing the line - the problem is that there is no line set in stone. Any visitor would of course prefer very little advertising to get in the way of the information they want, and certainly would not want to be forced to view an advert; yet the advertisers obviously want that reversed. The site involved has to be careful that they don't loose too many visitors and don't loose too much advertising revenue. I would not like to be the one do draw the line on this issue. I think this web site has it well balanced. There is advertising at the top and bottom of each page, and down the side in places. I personally glance at the adverts practically every single time the page loads because I know that there is a very high probablity that they will be advertising products and services of interest to me. I said to myself "Oh, that is one of the Visual Assist ones" as this page was loading.


        David Wulff
        http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

        Well thank you Nish... ;)

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          Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Anyway, since I've also designed and coded web sites, I wanted to know from you guys whether I'm being anal or do you consider this in bad taste? ESPN article Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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          Tim Smith
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          I hate those things. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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            Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Anyway, since I've also designed and coded web sites, I wanted to know from you guys whether I'm being anal or do you consider this in bad taste? ESPN article Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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            Lost User
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            It's pretty lame but they gotta adverise somehow I guess. At least they only seem to do it the first time you visit. One thing that really kills ads like this, and pop-ups in general, is that most of the world doesn't have broadband internet access and don't have the bandwidth to spare on crap like that. Josh Knox that-guy.net
            "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes." - author unknown

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            • T Tom Archer

              Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Anyway, since I've also designed and coded web sites, I wanted to know from you guys whether I'm being anal or do you consider this in bad taste? ESPN article Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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              It is annoying. I am yet to see anyone who likes it or thinks that it is appropriate. I was using AdSubtract for a while to prevent these things, but then a few of the stuff I need also does not work; The program does not know what web page scripts I want, and what I do not want. :) Thomas

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                Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Anyway, since I've also designed and coded web sites, I wanted to know from you guys whether I'm being anal or do you consider this in bad taste? ESPN article Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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                Brian Delahunty
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                I didn't seems to get this problem at all.. but it does some a bit crap either way :)


                "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do, and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - General George S. Patton Jr.

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                  It is annoying. I am yet to see anyone who likes it or thinks that it is appropriate. I was using AdSubtract for a while to prevent these things, but then a few of the stuff I need also does not work; The program does not know what web page scripts I want, and what I do not want. :) Thomas

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                  Michael Dunn
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                  I use AdSubtract's predecessor, InterMute, and if AS is like IM you can set its filters on a site-by-site basis. For example, I have IM set to not block cookies or JS when browsing codeproject.com ;) --Mike-- Rollin' in my 5.0 With the rag-top down so my hair can blow. My really out-of-date homepage Sonork - 100.10414 AcidHelm Big fan of Alyson Hannigan and Jamie Salé.

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                    It is annoying. I am yet to see anyone who likes it or thinks that it is appropriate. I was using AdSubtract for a while to prevent these things, but then a few of the stuff I need also does not work; The program does not know what web page scripts I want, and what I do not want. :) Thomas

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                    Try using Proxomitron available from http://www.proxomitron.org/ Proxo is excellent and you can precisely control what you want and don't want. It is free too. AdSubtract actually licensed proxo's code for use in their product. Suresh

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                      Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Anyway, since I've also designed and coded web sites, I wanted to know from you guys whether I'm being anal or do you consider this in bad taste? ESPN article Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      Any company or site that uses this crap has instantly lost my patronage and viewership. Yes, it's effective, but the problem for them is that there are plenty of other websites out there so as soon as I see that trick used I simply won't go there again. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Any company or site that uses this crap has instantly lost my patronage and viewership. Yes, it's effective, but the problem for them is that there are plenty of other websites out there so as soon as I see that trick used I simply won't go there again. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Chris Maunder wrote: Any company or site that uses this crap has instantly lost my patronage and viewership. That clarifies our worst fears, You won't be doing this to CP eh ! :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

                        Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Testing Current Sig <:jig:>

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                          Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Anyway, since I've also designed and coded web sites, I wanted to know from you guys whether I'm being anal or do you consider this in bad taste? ESPN article Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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                          Tom Archer wrote: Banners are one thing, but to splash things across the content of the page; forcing the reader to not only wait until this animation ends but to also manually close the window seems to be way over the line of etiquette to me. Agreed, I'm against full blown censorship of the web. But I wonder if a spider could oneday rate the content of the web. And an Add-in to a browser could distinguish the sites by there ratings. Most of the www is crud. Regardz Colin J Davies

                          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Testing Current Sig <:jig:>

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                            Chris Maunder wrote: Any company or site that uses this crap has instantly lost my patronage and viewership. That clarifies our worst fears, You won't be doing this to CP eh ! :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

                            Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Testing Current Sig <:jig:>

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            Hey Colin - if you really want full page flash ads then just say the word. I could get a great price for them ;) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              Hey Colin - if you really want full page flash ads then just say the word. I could get a great price for them ;) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              ColinDavies
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                              Chris Maunder wrote: Hey Colin - if you really want full page flash ads then just say the word. I could get a great price for them :-) Ouch ! I don't think that would be very popular Chris, :-) But it is interesting as to what is the balance of Ads to Content should be. eg: Too Few and you can't pay your expenses. Too Many and you loose patronage. I haven't seen a hard and fast formula for this yet. Regardz Colin J Davies

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