Copyright Protection
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i'd be more surprised if they didn't. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Some of the people who posted comments on the article complain that their civil liberties are being eroded by such legislation. I didn't realize that the constitution grants everyone the right to steal copyrighted materials. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
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Some of the people who posted comments on the article complain that their civil liberties are being eroded by such legislation. I didn't realize that the constitution grants everyone the right to steal copyrighted materials. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
Troposphere wrote:
I didn't realize that the constitution grants everyone the right to steal copyrighted materials.
neither does the Constitution give authors open-ended copyright protection. neither does the Constitution give media companies the power to prevent people from making use of their Fair Use rights. neither does the Constitution say that the wishes of media companies should supercede those of the citizens. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Troposphere wrote:
I didn't realize that the constitution grants everyone the right to steal copyrighted materials.
neither does the Constitution give authors open-ended copyright protection. neither does the Constitution give media companies the power to prevent people from making use of their Fair Use rights. neither does the Constitution say that the wishes of media companies should supercede those of the citizens. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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The rights of any author of a creative work to protect that work should outweigh the rights to copy it. Anything less leaves the world a much more boring place to live in.
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Funny... i was a big Napster/Kazaa/Gnutella user back in the day. Pretty much stopped sharing and downloading music after all the lawsuits started hitting. I've bought exactly one new CD per year since then - down from probably one every couple weeks or more prior to that. Pretty much the same deal with downloading movies and seeing them in theaters - i'll wait 'till they're out on DVD and rent them. I might be atypical, but geez, if not, then what a way to shoot yourself in the foot.
Now taking suggestions for the next release of CPhog...
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Troposphere wrote:
I didn't realize that the constitution grants everyone the right to steal copyrighted materials.
neither does the Constitution give authors open-ended copyright protection. neither does the Constitution give media companies the power to prevent people from making use of their Fair Use rights. neither does the Constitution say that the wishes of media companies should supercede those of the citizens. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Yeah, just look how they keep extending the copyright laws so that Micky Mouse does not become public domain... It is all about the Benjamins.. If things were priced more realistic, I do not think there would be as much pirating. The true problem is more a sign of the moral decay in the world and how few of peolple actually have any ethics. Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]
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The rights of any author of a creative work to protect that work should outweigh the rights to copy it. Anything less leaves the world a much more boring place to live in.
John Cardinal wrote:
The rights of any author of a creative work to protect that work should outweigh the rights to copy it.
i'm not talking about "copying it". Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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From the article:
Such changes are necessary because new technology is "encouraging large-scale criminal enterprises to get involved in intellectual-property theft," Gonzales [AG Alberto] said, adding that proceeds from the illicit businesses are used, "quite frankly, to fund terrorism activities."
Oh geez! Now they're playing the "T" card!!?? :rolleyes: "If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done." - Peter Ustinov
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Some of the people who posted comments on the article complain that their civil liberties are being eroded by such legislation. I didn't realize that the constitution grants everyone the right to steal copyrighted materials. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
Troposphere wrote:
I didn't realize that the constitution grants everyone the right to steal copyrighted materials.
It's not about stealing, it's about the DMCA abrogating my fair use rights. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard
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Troposphere wrote:
I didn't realize that the constitution grants everyone the right to steal copyrighted materials.
It's not about stealing, it's about the DMCA abrogating my fair use rights. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard
Yawn.. These arguments are so tired. The truth is that too many people think they are entitled to have something of value just because they want it. It's people's inflated sense of entitlement that causes them to steal without conscience, and then rationalize it away as if they have a right to the product in the first place. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
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Yawn.. These arguments are so tired. The truth is that too many people think they are entitled to have something of value just because they want it. It's people's inflated sense of entitlement that causes them to steal without conscience, and then rationalize it away as if they have a right to the product in the first place. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
Troposphere wrote:
It's people's inflated sense of entitlement that causes them to steal without conscience, and then rationalize it away as if they have a right to the product in the first place.
I don't steal. I buy all my music fair and square. The only entitlement I feel is the right to play it whenever, wherever and on whatever device I want. That's fair use.
Troposphere wrote:
These arguments are so tired.
Yet the validity still stands. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard
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Yawn.. These arguments are so tired. The truth is that too many people think they are entitled to have something of value just because they want it. It's people's inflated sense of entitlement that causes them to steal without conscience, and then rationalize it away as if they have a right to the product in the first place. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
Troposphere wrote:
It's people's inflated sense of entitlement that causes them to steal without conscience, and then rationalize it away as if they have a right to the product in the first place.
why do you keep insisting this is all about "stealing"? do you really not understand that there is more to copyright law than the creator's protection from unauthorized copying ? Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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Yeah, just look how they keep extending the copyright laws so that Micky Mouse does not become public domain... It is all about the Benjamins.. If things were priced more realistic, I do not think there would be as much pirating. The true problem is more a sign of the moral decay in the world and how few of peolple actually have any ethics. Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]
Rocky Moore wrote:
If things were priced more realistic, I do not think there would be as much pirating.
Just what is the right price for crap?
Rocky Moore wrote:
The true problem is more a sign of the moral decay in the world and how few of peolple actually have any ethics.
Agreed. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard
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Troposphere wrote:
It's people's inflated sense of entitlement that causes them to steal without conscience, and then rationalize it away as if they have a right to the product in the first place.
why do you keep insisting this is all about "stealing"? do you really not understand that there is more to copyright law than the creator's protection from unauthorized copying ? Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Well what in the law prevents you from making fair use? The law prohibits bypassing copy protections. Why do you need to bypass copy protections in order to do fair use? ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
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Troposphere wrote:
It's people's inflated sense of entitlement that causes them to steal without conscience, and then rationalize it away as if they have a right to the product in the first place.
why do you keep insisting this is all about "stealing"? do you really not understand that there is more to copyright law than the creator's protection from unauthorized copying ? Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
why do you keep insisting this is all about "stealing"?
The perceived actions that one assigns to another says more about the one's morality and integrity than the other's. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard -- modified at 17:47 Monday 24th April, 2006
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Well what in the law prevents you from making fair use? The law prohibits bypassing copy protections. Why do you need to bypass copy protections in order to do fair use? ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
Fair use has always been extended to making copies of items for safekeeping. For example, I spend $20 on a new CD. I copy it to use in my car, and I tuck away the original for a future day when the copy dies an untimely death for whatever reason. The DMCA would prevent a consumer for legally doing this. Before you say, "No it doesn't..." ask what happened to all of the DVD copying software. The DMCA in it's present form was used to shut down the makers of this s/w. Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW.
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Fair use has always been extended to making copies of items for safekeeping. For example, I spend $20 on a new CD. I copy it to use in my car, and I tuck away the original for a future day when the copy dies an untimely death for whatever reason. The DMCA would prevent a consumer for legally doing this. Before you say, "No it doesn't..." ask what happened to all of the DVD copying software. The DMCA in it's present form was used to shut down the makers of this s/w. Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW.
Well, not being able to make a backup copy is not what has people so upset and emotional over this issue. I'm not saying you in particular, but some people use the "Fair Use" argument as a blanket code term meaning much less benign activities. There are people who argue that they are entitled to download free music simply because the record companies have "enough" money, in their opinion. This is clearly not a "Fair Use" argument. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
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Yawn.. These arguments are so tired. The truth is that too many people think they are entitled to have something of value just because they want it. It's people's inflated sense of entitlement that causes them to steal without conscience, and then rationalize it away as if they have a right to the product in the first place. ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸
For me it's about respect. They respect me, I respect them. They get greedy, I get sneaky. I've always bveen a compulsory buyer. I still cannot enter a record store without purchasing at least something. Even when I was comparedly short on money, I "granted" myself one record a month. There is one personality I hate: control freaks. When I see through which hoops RIAA is willing to jump just to get control over my music habits, I am disgusted. They spend most of their time to make sure I don't get what they don't want me to get, instead of taking care I get exactly what I want. They treat me like a criminal everytime I pay €18..20 for 35..45 minutes of music. I still buy my fair share of music. But I will also keep that trusty 6 year old CD-ROM drive that yet has to fail to grab one "copyright-protected" disc.
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