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    Is anyone else out there terribly upset with the bugs and/or stability issues in VS.NET?  :mad:    My 2 biggest peeves with it (note that little things bother me more than bigger ones) are the fact that it always starts up with maximized child windows, and the dialog editor does not persist the guide/grid settings!   Grrrr...    Not to mention that I have crashed the IDE several times; mostly in the resource editor, which seems to still get unstable after a few cut/paste operations...  (Crashes I am used to, so they do not bother me as much...)    Just venting...!    Peace! -=- James.

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      Is anyone else out there terribly upset with the bugs and/or stability issues in VS.NET?  :mad:    My 2 biggest peeves with it (note that little things bother me more than bigger ones) are the fact that it always starts up with maximized child windows, and the dialog editor does not persist the guide/grid settings!   Grrrr...    Not to mention that I have crashed the IDE several times; mostly in the resource editor, which seems to still get unstable after a few cut/paste operations...  (Crashes I am used to, so they do not bother me as much...)    Just venting...!    Peace! -=- James.

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      I've had to reboot twice this morning with an editor all over me about finishing this #*&# printing chapter. Don't get me started on Visual Studio.NET :mad: :mad: :mad: Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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        I've had to reboot twice this morning with an editor all over me about finishing this #*&# printing chapter. Don't get me started on Visual Studio.NET :mad: :mad: :mad: Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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        Nish Nishant
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        Tom Archer wrote: Don't get me started on Visual Studio.NET Guess it'll take an year and 2 or maybe even 3 service packs before it gets stable enough for normal usage Nish _I am looking for a free racing game. Old style racing game without any complicated 3D stuff. Around 4 MB download. If anyone has such a game, please inform me._

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          Tom Archer wrote: Don't get me started on Visual Studio.NET Guess it'll take an year and 2 or maybe even 3 service packs before it gets stable enough for normal usage Nish _I am looking for a free racing game. Old style racing game without any complicated 3D stuff. Around 4 MB download. If anyone has such a game, please inform me._

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          Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I am looking for a free racing game. Old style racing game without any complicated 3D stuff. Around 4 MB download. If anyone has such a game, please inform me. Get an Atari 2600 Emulator and try "Enduro" :) Crivo Automated Credit Assessment

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            Is anyone else out there terribly upset with the bugs and/or stability issues in VS.NET?  :mad:    My 2 biggest peeves with it (note that little things bother me more than bigger ones) are the fact that it always starts up with maximized child windows, and the dialog editor does not persist the guide/grid settings!   Grrrr...    Not to mention that I have crashed the IDE several times; mostly in the resource editor, which seems to still get unstable after a few cut/paste operations...  (Crashes I am used to, so they do not bother me as much...)    Just venting...!    Peace! -=- James.

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            Kannan Kalyanaraman
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            I'm not able to find an option where i can compile a single project alone in a solution, everytime I build, it has to build the entire solution including all the projects, is there anyway around it ? I want to compile only the project i selected, It hasnt crashed for me yet, thats probably cause i'm using it for non-ui code. cheers Kannan

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              Is anyone else out there terribly upset with the bugs and/or stability issues in VS.NET?  :mad:    My 2 biggest peeves with it (note that little things bother me more than bigger ones) are the fact that it always starts up with maximized child windows, and the dialog editor does not persist the guide/grid settings!   Grrrr...    Not to mention that I have crashed the IDE several times; mostly in the resource editor, which seems to still get unstable after a few cut/paste operations...  (Crashes I am used to, so they do not bother me as much...)    Just venting...!    Peace! -=- James.

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              Be realistic. As Nish said, it'll probably be a couple service packs.. maybe even a new version... before it becomes usable. Who uses MS products before at least the seocnd service pack? ;P Winning isn't everything, but then, losing is nothing.

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                Be realistic. As Nish said, it'll probably be a couple service packs.. maybe even a new version... before it becomes usable. Who uses MS products before at least the seocnd service pack? ;P Winning isn't everything, but then, losing is nothing.

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                Navin wrote: Who uses MS products before at least the seocnd service pack? Me, all the time, without any major problems either. ;-) Jason Gerard

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                  Is anyone else out there terribly upset with the bugs and/or stability issues in VS.NET?  :mad:    My 2 biggest peeves with it (note that little things bother me more than bigger ones) are the fact that it always starts up with maximized child windows, and the dialog editor does not persist the guide/grid settings!   Grrrr...    Not to mention that I have crashed the IDE several times; mostly in the resource editor, which seems to still get unstable after a few cut/paste operations...  (Crashes I am used to, so they do not bother me as much...)    Just venting...!    Peace! -=- James.

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                  I think I was lucky enough to install it seamlessly in less than 6 hours... Up to now, it works fine (I am not doing complicated stuff). However, VS NET has the *annoying* habit of putting himself as the active window, bringing itself to front as soon as the mouse passes over the IDE. Does anyone how to deactivate this thing? It may be a stupid checkbox somewhere hidden in the options dialog, but it is quite irritating!! R.

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                    Try right-clicking on that particular project in the Solution Explorer, and select "Build"...  See if that works for you.    Peace! -=- James.

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                    Oh, great, someone posted an answer to my message !!!! :) ... ein? excuse me? Will it work?? Ah, ok... I see. Regards, R. ps: you replied the wrong question

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                      I'm not able to find an option where i can compile a single project alone in a solution, everytime I build, it has to build the entire solution including all the projects, is there anyway around it ? I want to compile only the project i selected, It hasnt crashed for me yet, thats probably cause i'm using it for non-ui code. cheers Kannan

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                      Try right-clicking on that particular project in the Solution Explorer, and select "Build"...  See if that works for you.    Peace! -=- James.

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                        Tom Archer wrote: Don't get me started on Visual Studio.NET Guess it'll take an year and 2 or maybe even 3 service packs before it gets stable enough for normal usage Nish _I am looking for a free racing game. Old style racing game without any complicated 3D stuff. Around 4 MB download. If anyone has such a game, please inform me._

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                        All the more reason I keep telling other developers to NEVER use Microsoft (sample) source code as examples of how to do things! :/    VS 6 was not this unstable.  Sure, there were many ways to crash it (and I know a few locations I can jump to in it's disasm., after attaching a debugger to it, to keep it running so I do not lose work-in-progress :)), but it was not this bad!    Peace! -=- James.

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                          I think I was lucky enough to install it seamlessly in less than 6 hours... Up to now, it works fine (I am not doing complicated stuff). However, VS NET has the *annoying* habit of putting himself as the active window, bringing itself to front as soon as the mouse passes over the IDE. Does anyone how to deactivate this thing? It may be a stupid checkbox somewhere hidden in the options dialog, but it is quite irritating!! R.

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                          Never had that problem! :)    Sounds like some XWindows-like behavior, where the "focus" follows the cursor...    Peace! -=- James.

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                            Oh, great, someone posted an answer to my message !!!! :) ... ein? excuse me? Will it work?? Ah, ok... I see. Regards, R. ps: you replied the wrong question

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                            James R Twine
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                            Yeah...  Dunno how that happened... :suss:    Peace! -=- James.

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                              I'm not able to find an option where i can compile a single project alone in a solution, everytime I build, it has to build the entire solution including all the projects, is there anyway around it ? I want to compile only the project i selected, It hasnt crashed for me yet, thats probably cause i'm using it for non-ui code. cheers Kannan

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                              (See my other post...) -=- James.

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                                (See my other post...) -=- James.

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                                Dude!  WTF?  I am clicking [Reply] on the right message, but it is ending up in the wrong thread...!      Peace! -=- James.

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                                  I'm not able to find an option where i can compile a single project alone in a solution, everytime I build, it has to build the entire solution including all the projects, is there anyway around it ? I want to compile only the project i selected, It hasnt crashed for me yet, thats probably cause i'm using it for non-ui code. cheers Kannan

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                                  Kannan Kalyanaraman wrote: I'm not able to find an option where i can compile a single project alone in a solution, everytime I build, it has to build the entire solution including all the projects, is there anyway around it ? I want to compile only the project i selected, It hasnt crashed for me yet, thats probably cause i'm using it for non-ui code.    Test...  Lesee if this gets to the right thread...    Try right-clicking on the Project, and select [Build].    Peace! -=- James.

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                                    Be realistic. As Nish said, it'll probably be a couple service packs.. maybe even a new version... before it becomes usable. Who uses MS products before at least the seocnd service pack? ;P Winning isn't everything, but then, losing is nothing.

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                                    Navin wrote: Be realistic. As Nish said, it'll probably be a couple service packs.. maybe even a new version... before it becomes usable. Who uses MS products before at least the seocnd service pack?    Maybe...  But I never had this much trouble since Word...!    Peace! -=- James.

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                                      Kannan Kalyanaraman wrote: I'm not able to find an option where i can compile a single project alone in a solution, everytime I build, it has to build the entire solution including all the projects, is there anyway around it ? I want to compile only the project i selected, It hasnt crashed for me yet, thats probably cause i'm using it for non-ui code.    Test...  Lesee if this gets to the right thread...    Try right-clicking on the Project, and select [Build].    Peace! -=- James.

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                                      Don't go insane over it, its a known problem with the forums :-P James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile. And every day we'll turn another page. Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book, One brown mouse sitting in a cage." "One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978

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                                        Don't go insane over it, its a known problem with the forums :-P James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "Smile your little smile, take some tea with me awhile. And every day we'll turn another page. Behind our glass we'll sit and look at our ever-open book, One brown mouse sitting in a cage." "One Brown Mouse" from Heavy Horses, Jethro Tull 1978

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                                        James R Twine
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                                        James T. Johnson wrote: Don't go insane over it, [...]    Too Late!  Too Late! :omg: :)    I never heard about this/that problem, let along experienced it before... :|    Peace! -=- James.

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                                          All the more reason I keep telling other developers to NEVER use Microsoft (sample) source code as examples of how to do things! :/    VS 6 was not this unstable.  Sure, there were many ways to crash it (and I know a few locations I can jump to in it's disasm., after attaching a debugger to it, to keep it running so I do not lose work-in-progress :)), but it was not this bad!    Peace! -=- James.

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                                          This is precisely why in my C# book I intentionally stay away from Visual Studio.NET and go out of my way to make sure that all code works regardless of editor being used. It used to be that only decidedly anti-MS people used third-party editors. However, it's becoming more commonplace nowadays to see developers using non-MS editors that are both more stable and feature-rich. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C#

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