Code licensing question.
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I'd like to use the serialport library linked to below in an application, but need a lawyer to english translation of the license MS released it under (second link). > PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION. > > Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. > You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, > license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services. Does this exclude any comericial useage, or only repackaging it as DansSerialLib and selling the code? http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=B06E30F9-1301-4CC6-AC14-DFE325097C69 http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx PS I'm aware a later version of this lib is used in the VS05 EE's, but unless NT4 support turns out to be a discardable requirement it's not an option. I also looked at 2 libraries posted here, but my boss wasn't happy about the license with the first (C# and standard c++), and the second(mc++) smaller one had performance issues becuase it appeared to be using syncronous write calls.
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I'd like to use the serialport library linked to below in an application, but need a lawyer to english translation of the license MS released it under (second link). > PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION. > > Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. > You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, > license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services. Does this exclude any comericial useage, or only repackaging it as DansSerialLib and selling the code? http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=B06E30F9-1301-4CC6-AC14-DFE325097C69 http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx PS I'm aware a later version of this lib is used in the VS05 EE's, but unless NT4 support turns out to be a discardable requirement it's not an option. I also looked at 2 libraries posted here, but my boss wasn't happy about the license with the first (C# and standard c++), and the second(mc++) smaller one had performance issues becuase it appeared to be using syncronous write calls.
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if you look for a lawyer, search in the Visual C++ forum. if you look for a developer, search in the lounge :-D :laugh:
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I'd like to use the serialport library linked to below in an application, but need a lawyer to english translation of the license MS released it under (second link). > PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION. > > Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. > You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, > license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services. Does this exclude any comericial useage, or only repackaging it as DansSerialLib and selling the code? http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=B06E30F9-1301-4CC6-AC14-DFE325097C69 http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx PS I'm aware a later version of this lib is used in the VS05 EE's, but unless NT4 support turns out to be a discardable requirement it's not an option. I also looked at 2 libraries posted here, but my boss wasn't happy about the license with the first (C# and standard c++), and the second(mc++) smaller one had performance issues becuase it appeared to be using syncronous write calls.
I could be wrong as I am not a lawyer, but it appears that it cannot be used in a commercial product. Matt Newman
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I'd like to use the serialport library linked to below in an application, but need a lawyer to english translation of the license MS released it under (second link). > PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION. > > Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. > You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, > license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services. Does this exclude any comericial useage, or only repackaging it as DansSerialLib and selling the code? http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=B06E30F9-1301-4CC6-AC14-DFE325097C69 http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx PS I'm aware a later version of this lib is used in the VS05 EE's, but unless NT4 support turns out to be a discardable requirement it's not an option. I also looked at 2 libraries posted here, but my boss wasn't happy about the license with the first (C# and standard c++), and the second(mc++) smaller one had performance issues becuase it appeared to be using syncronous write calls.
dan neely wrote:
your personal and non-commercial use
dan neely wrote:
create derivative works from
There's you answer I would think:~ ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.
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I'd like to use the serialport library linked to below in an application, but need a lawyer to english translation of the license MS released it under (second link). > PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION. > > Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. > You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, > license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services. Does this exclude any comericial useage, or only repackaging it as DansSerialLib and selling the code? http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=B06E30F9-1301-4CC6-AC14-DFE325097C69 http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx PS I'm aware a later version of this lib is used in the VS05 EE's, but unless NT4 support turns out to be a discardable requirement it's not an option. I also looked at 2 libraries posted here, but my boss wasn't happy about the license with the first (C# and standard c++), and the second(mc++) smaller one had performance issues becuase it appeared to be using syncronous write calls.
dan neely wrote:
PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION.
Self explanitory.
dan neely wrote:
Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use.
Afaik, this allows you to use the software for commercial use only if you get permission first.
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I'd like to use the serialport library linked to below in an application, but need a lawyer to english translation of the license MS released it under (second link). > PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION. > > Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. > You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, > license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services. Does this exclude any comericial useage, or only repackaging it as DansSerialLib and selling the code? http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=B06E30F9-1301-4CC6-AC14-DFE325097C69 http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx PS I'm aware a later version of this lib is used in the VS05 EE's, but unless NT4 support turns out to be a discardable requirement it's not an option. I also looked at 2 libraries posted here, but my boss wasn't happy about the license with the first (C# and standard c++), and the second(mc++) smaller one had performance issues becuase it appeared to be using syncronous write calls.
To me this text:
dan neely wrote:
personal and non-commercial use
completely prohibits any commercial use. And this text:
dan neely wrote:
create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, > products
prohibits any selling or repackaging. Of course IANAL but decyphering lawyerese is kind of a hobby of mine.:) -- modified at 11:09 Friday 12th May, 2006
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I'd like to use the serialport library linked to below in an application, but need a lawyer to english translation of the license MS released it under (second link). > PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION. > > Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. > You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, > license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services. Does this exclude any comericial useage, or only repackaging it as DansSerialLib and selling the code? http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=B06E30F9-1301-4CC6-AC14-DFE325097C69 http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx PS I'm aware a later version of this lib is used in the VS05 EE's, but unless NT4 support turns out to be a discardable requirement it's not an option. I also looked at 2 libraries posted here, but my boss wasn't happy about the license with the first (C# and standard c++), and the second(mc++) smaller one had performance issues becuase it appeared to be using syncronous write calls.
dan neely wrote:
> Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use.
dan neely wrote:
or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services.
As with the others, I agree this is pretty telling statement. Basically, what is required is to request a commercial license for your application. This is a separate license which gives you publishing rights for a derived application that does not compete with a product of that company (and probably a laundry list of other requirements). Depending on the company that may be a one-shot license for as many derived commercial applications (providing they still used the same rules), or it may be a license that must be "repurchased" for every extra derivative work. Anyhow, the point is call for a commercial license cost, find out how much it is. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I'd like to use the serialport library linked to below in an application, but need a lawyer to english translation of the license MS released it under (second link). > PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION. > > Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. > You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, > license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services. Does this exclude any comericial useage, or only repackaging it as DansSerialLib and selling the code? http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/UserSamples/Details.aspx?SampleGuid=B06E30F9-1301-4CC6-AC14-DFE325097C69 http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.mspx PS I'm aware a later version of this lib is used in the VS05 EE's, but unless NT4 support turns out to be a discardable requirement it's not an option. I also looked at 2 libraries posted here, but my boss wasn't happy about the license with the first (C# and standard c++), and the second(mc++) smaller one had performance issues becuase it appeared to be using syncronous write calls.
That source code was written by the user that posted it up (Dave Fett) so you could ask him to license it to you - I usually find a single malt whisky is a fair exchange but each developer has their own price. '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
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dan neely wrote:
> Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use.
dan neely wrote:
or sell any information, software, > products or services obtained from the Services.
As with the others, I agree this is pretty telling statement. Basically, what is required is to request a commercial license for your application. This is a separate license which gives you publishing rights for a derived application that does not compete with a product of that company (and probably a laundry list of other requirements). Depending on the company that may be a one-shot license for as many derived commercial applications (providing they still used the same rules), or it may be a license that must be "repurchased" for every extra derivative work. Anyhow, the point is call for a commercial license cost, find out how much it is. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)