All the Vista Bashing

Chris Losinger

David Stone wrote:

Just wondering if you guys are actually speaking from experience when you say that "this sucks" or "that's worthless".

are there a lot of people saying either of those things ? i played with one of the Betas months and months ago and didn't find anything that made me want to squeal with glee. a slick new shell? meh. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

Chris Losinger

Trollslayer wrote:

I keep XP on the Win2k scheme, find the XP scheme to space consuming and distracting

that means you're smart - like me. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

Rob Graham

So far I have only tried to run it in a Virtual PC. The result was that it pegs my CPU (3.0GHz 2GB memory) at 100%. The VPC is almost unusable (10-15 seconds to bring up control panel, even in windows classic UI mode). Of course it was still busy trying to index all the files after an hour, so maybe it'll settle down if I let it run long enough to finish...(cab't change the indexing settings or stop the indexer until its done, as far as I can tell. In Vista UI mode it was utterly unuseable (2 minutes to call up display settings so I could turn it off). I can understand this to a degree, since the VPC graphics adapter is all emulation, but was dissappointed that it didn't figure that out on its own and default to windows classic. In fact, the system performance tools shows all aspects of the "hardware" to be "green" - ok to run Vista... Underwhelmed so far...

Chris Losinger

code-frog wrote:

People don't understand that they have a choice

who doesn't understand that ? got any names ?

code-frog wrote:

They don't have to use Vista and they should just make their choice and be quiet.

if people are going to ask questions about Vista in this forum, other people are going to offer their opinions. "be quiet" isn't a CP value. if you want a strictly pro-Vista echo chamber, i'm sure MS has one set up somewhere.

code-frog wrote:

Instead everyone has to be an expert especially with something they haven't used.

mighty big assumption Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

Lost User

David Stone wrote:

The UAC is great, IMO. I needed admin credentials to do things like install software (which I should need anyway) or change system settings, but not for most things that I wanted to do.

Overdue for several years now. -> sudo

David Stone wrote:

And the Aero Glass experience is awesome

Not new again -> Xgl/MacOS

David Stone wrote:

Like when you rename a file in explorer, the selection doesn't include the extension.

I guess that took the delevopers about 5 minutes to program. Not new again -> Gnome What I really liked about Vista (I tested an earlier build a few weeks ago) was the look&feel and the "Windows Calendar". But that was about all. What I had missed was WinFS, Monad and a thought-out UAC, and a proper system-wide software management (keeping all software up-to-date) Right now I'll stick to WinXP (games, development) and Linux (all other stuff). Btw. could you do me a favor? In the last build I tested, Vista did not allow me to use a slash "/" in my PPPoE username. Could you open up that wizard and try to enter a username with a slash in it? thanks regards

Chris Austin

David Stone wrote:

How many of you who are openly bashing on Vista have actually used it for any serious length of time?

Why are you so defensive? It is just a tool. I've been using it for a week and I think that Aero Glass is CRAP. Is there any real reason for the transparent windows? The differentiation between a window in the foreground and a window in the background is wayyyyyyyyyyyy to subtle :) Also, is there any reason for the Title Bar of a window to become pitch black when you maximize a window? This just seems to inconsistent to me. Oh, and who came up with the silly user picture in the menu bar. God forbid I forget who I am. I don't mind UAC. And, I think the built-in mail client and calendar are workable. I don't like the way contacts are managed...seems kind like a kludge to me. I like some of the other options like BitLocker and the “image based system backup”. (Although it better be phenomenal to win my business from Acronis). Also, some of the ideas from Avalon seem pretty cool from a devs point of view. But, based on my current experiance on 2 seperate machines; I am not excited about this product. The question MS needs to answer for me is "why should I upgrade?" I haven’t noticed any real innovation in the user experience. But, why should we rely on MS to do that; rember what the XP in Windows XP was susposed to stand for?....... eXPerience. Oh, why 5 fricken versions Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

Ed Poore

espeir wrote:

100

How long did it take to do 100 miles? 20 hrs @ 5 mph? Sure you didn't put too much stress on the cat?

You know you're a Land Rover owner when the best route from point A to point B is through the mud. Ed

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led mike

code-frog wrote:

Wagon-bashing

Come on now! No "Wagon-bashing", no "Vista Bashing", aren't we free to bash anything we want? Wait! Accept for freedom! :omg: NO FREEDOM-BASHING! :laugh:

led mike

Chris Austin wrote:

I've been using it for a week

So does that mean you are "Wagon-bashing" or "Vista-bashing"? Or both? ohhhh I'm so confused :confused:

led mike

Greeeg wrote:

Right now I'll stick to...

Try bathing more often, perhaps you won't be quite as sticky. :)

Chris Austin

What do I call you, a fan-boy? I gave an honest user's review. You'll notice I've even praised some of the features. And who fuck are you to speak up any more than I am. I am a paying MS customer, I've sold MS technoligies to my customers (SQL Server and Win 2003 makes MS lots of friggin money) and I've supported MS dev tools for a long time. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

led mike

Yeah but who wants to drive one of those[^] ;P

led mike

Not at all flaming you. The seriousness of this thread escapes me so... I am using your "1 week" statement to have some fun with this earlier post[^] where

code-frog wrote:

Wagon-bashing is the term I've coined for it.

Also

Chris Austin wrote:

What do I call you, a fan-boy?

no, "never used it-boy" would be more accurate but I would prefer "mike" or "led" or "led mike" since you are asking :)

Jorgen Sigvardsson

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

If you already own Windows 2000, then an upgrade may seem pointless. But the fact is that XP runs way more smoothly than Windows 2000. It boots faster, it executes faster, and it looks better (even classic mode), at least in my experience. I probably won't use Vista until 2008. (I buy computers every three years :))

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

Crap was once delicious food... :~

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Chris Austin

My apologies :rose: Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

El Corazon

code-frog wrote:

It's cool to bash Microsoft right?

I can't make fun of SGI anymore. ;P _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

S Douglas

Christopher Duncan wrote:

Perhaps you could provide an API as a service to those of less gifted and glaring wit

I thought there was one already in place, make a stupid post and sooner or later, the GC or in this case the JSOP (John Simmons Outlaw Programmer) will come along and point out the garbage. :) Just remember your not allowed to call the GC or JSOP directly.

I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

bob16972

I usually drive my car until it goes boom and fixing it becomes a break even with buying a new one. I don't buy a new one just for a new CD changer or MP3 add on. My programs still work on WinNt because the OS's have hardly changed by themselves since Win32 came about. Most of the improvements are either in newer IE's and I have put the rest of the redistributables in my installation MSI's where needed.