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  • C Chris Austin

    What do I call you, a fan-boy? I gave an honest user's review. You'll notice I've even praised some of the features. And who fuck are you to speak up any more than I am. I am a paying MS customer, I've sold MS technoligies to my customers (SQL Server and Win 2003 makes MS lots of friggin money) and I've supported MS dev tools for a long time. Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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    led mike
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    Not at all flaming you. The seriousness of this thread escapes me so... I am using your "1 week" statement to have some fun with this earlier post[^] where

    code-frog wrote:

    Wagon-bashing is the term I've coined for it.

    Also

    Chris Austin wrote:

    What do I call you, a fan-boy?

    no, "never used it-boy" would be more accurate but I would prefer "mike" or "led" or "led mike" since you are asking :)

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    • C Christopher Duncan

      God probably uses a Mac. :) Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Know someone who desperately needs to get a clue? Visit www.DownloadAClue.com and send them one!

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      A Lisa?

      -- 100% natural. No superstitious additives.

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        W2K Pro, without a doubt. XP brings nothing of any significance to the party. And if your W2K crashes, you don't have to do the activation dance. Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Know someone who desperately needs to get a clue? Visit www.DownloadAClue.com and send them one!

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        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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        If you already own Windows 2000, then an upgrade may seem pointless. But the fact is that XP runs way more smoothly than Windows 2000. It boots faster, it executes faster, and it looks better (even classic mode), at least in my experience. I probably won't use Vista until 2008. (I buy computers every three years :))

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Crap is still crap - it doesn't matter what stage of its existance we're talking about...

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          Crap was once delicious food... :~

          -- 100% natural. No superstitious additives.

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          • L led mike

            Not at all flaming you. The seriousness of this thread escapes me so... I am using your "1 week" statement to have some fun with this earlier post[^] where

            code-frog wrote:

            Wagon-bashing is the term I've coined for it.

            Also

            Chris Austin wrote:

            What do I call you, a fan-boy?

            no, "never used it-boy" would be more accurate but I would prefer "mike" or "led" or "led mike" since you are asking :)

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            Chris Austin
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            My apologies :rose: Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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            • C code frog 0

              I'm way with you David. Most people don't even realize they've hopped on a band-wagon. Wagon-bashing is the term I've coined for it. People don't understand that they have a choice. They don't have to use Vista and they should just make their choice and be quiet. Instead everyone has to be an expert especially with something they haven't used. So they register their opinions etc, etc, etc... It's cool to bash Microsoft right?:rolleyes:


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              El Corazon
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              code-frog wrote:

              It's cool to bash Microsoft right?

              I can't make fun of SGI anymore. ;P _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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              • C Christopher Duncan

                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                and a 3 for being able to use the same line twice without anyone knowing

                Hey, this is a programmer's hangout. We encourage code reuse! Perhaps you could provide an API as a service to those of less gifted and glaring wit? :-D Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Know someone who desperately needs to get a clue? Visit www.DownloadAClue.com and send them one!

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                S Douglas
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                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Perhaps you could provide an API as a service to those of less gifted and glaring wit

                I thought there was one already in place, make a stupid post and sooner or later, the GC or in this case the JSOP (John Simmons Outlaw Programmer) will come along and point out the garbage. :) Just remember your not allowed to call the GC or JSOP directly.


                I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                  Like XP before it, there is no compelling reason to upgrade to the new OS other than enhanced eye candy.

                  So when you buy cars, eye candy is a good enough reason, but not so for an OS, eh? Interesting! :rolleyes: I know your car's powerful, but it looks damn good too. Regards, Nish


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                  bob16972
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                  I usually drive my car until it goes boom and fixing it becomes a break even with buying a new one. I don't buy a new one just for a new CD changer or MP3 add on. My programs still work on WinNt because the OS's have hardly changed by themselves since Win32 came about. Most of the improvements are either in newer IE's and I have put the rest of the redistributables in my installation MSI's where needed.

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    Crap was once delicious food... :~

                    -- 100% natural. No superstitious additives.

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                    My dog believes it is delicious food X|

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                    • D David Stone

                      How many of you who are openly bashing on Vista have actually used it for any serious length of time? My own experience has been less than stellar, since Vista and my laptop seem to be at odds with each other...and the fact that the IT guys here at work won't add my machine to the domain if it's running a beta OS (out of my control). The UAC is great, IMO. I needed admin credentials to do things like install software (which I should need anyway) or change system settings, but not for most things that I wanted to do. And the Aero Glass experience is awesome. XP looks as antiquated as Windows 95 does now that I've experienced the new UI. And aside from the big things, there's a bunch of little things. Like when you rename a file in explorer, the selection doesn't include the extension. So if I want to rename "New Text Document.txt" to something else, only "New Text Document" is highlighted. That's ultra nice, IMO. Just wondering if you guys are actually speaking from experience when you say that "this sucks" or "that's worthless". Because, in my experience, I wouldn't say that about anything in Vista.

                      And when we saw the computer, when we saw its code - and Turing saw it first - we were looking at complexity incarnate. And then suddenly we saw complexity everywhere. It materialized, it crystalized around us - even though it had always been there.
                      We have yet to recover from the shock.

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                      Joe Woodbury
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                      The same thing happened with XP and before that, with W2k. In the hardware department, the Core 2 Duo chipset may be the first where the cynics haven't pronounced Intel DOA. The reality is that since most new products do fail, the critics have a bigger chance of sounding profound and right if they predict failure. In reality, most critics don't know what the hell they're talking about, especially those that write for national news services (or who are evangelists for competing products.) That said, I used a beta about six months back. The test system graphics card didn't support Aero, but the rest worked fine. I was especially impressed at how easily it installed (it was VERY hard to install XP on the same system due to poorly documented and very obscure hardware that didn't have built in support.) Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                      • D David Stone

                        How many of you who are openly bashing on Vista have actually used it for any serious length of time? My own experience has been less than stellar, since Vista and my laptop seem to be at odds with each other...and the fact that the IT guys here at work won't add my machine to the domain if it's running a beta OS (out of my control). The UAC is great, IMO. I needed admin credentials to do things like install software (which I should need anyway) or change system settings, but not for most things that I wanted to do. And the Aero Glass experience is awesome. XP looks as antiquated as Windows 95 does now that I've experienced the new UI. And aside from the big things, there's a bunch of little things. Like when you rename a file in explorer, the selection doesn't include the extension. So if I want to rename "New Text Document.txt" to something else, only "New Text Document" is highlighted. That's ultra nice, IMO. Just wondering if you guys are actually speaking from experience when you say that "this sucks" or "that's worthless". Because, in my experience, I wouldn't say that about anything in Vista.

                        And when we saw the computer, when we saw its code - and Turing saw it first - we were looking at complexity incarnate. And then suddenly we saw complexity everywhere. It materialized, it crystalized around us - even though it had always been there.
                        We have yet to recover from the shock.

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                        Rocky Moore
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                        David, just remember .NET around here. It seemed like 99% of the people on CP bashed .NET and C# through the betas and even for the first year. Now, many of those same people are employed using .NET and/or using it at home. Same thing went for Windows XP, where many here bashed it to death who are now running it as their OS as they bash Vista. Some things change, other things stay the same. Personally, I am planing a new system for both the wife and I which will be Vista along with a laptop which is driven by Vista. And at this point, they may be including MS Office with the new redesign (was going to Open Office, but don't think so any more). Also, a lot of people say there is nothing new in Vista, but just the fact that they have taken thier DirectX power and placed it in the desktop allowing full integration with multimedia and using the full power of the top graphics cards is enough of a huge change, but when you dig and see how the guts of the OS is changed, you would think that would be enough, not to mention the increase in security and control... Most only see the flashy graphics and think, "I can be a rebel and not like it, boo.. bad design.. I want graphics I go to a MAC... Down with MS".. Give me a break, they have not spent this time catching up with other platforms, they are blazing past them! Rocky <>< Latest Post: Visual Studio 2005 Standard, whats missing? Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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