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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Matt Philmon wrote:

    Laziness: Uh... if someone figures this one out let me know.

    Start hanging around people and/or making friends with the type of person you want to be. Pretty soon it'll start rubbing off on you. Jeremy Falcon

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    bryce
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    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

    Start hanging around people and/or making friends with the type of person you want to be

    ahh hell back to the strippers then Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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      Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

      Too bad that doesn't mean a bloody thing now-a-days

      True, unfortunately. I look at it as a last-ditch sort of preventative measure. If they're looking to trim staff, I'm hoping they'll keep me around simply because I'm the only one who knows how all the crap jobs work :rolleyes:.


      Software Zen: delete this;

      Fold With Us![^]

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      S Douglas
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      Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

      If they're looking to trim staff, I'm hoping they'll keep me around simply because I'm the only one who knows how all the crap jobs work

      To bad that doesn’t count, the only thing that seems to count is how dirty your nose is. :~


      I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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      • F FlamTaps

        Does anybody else have those days where you lack any and all motivation to do anything productive? Or feel like you don't have any direction in which to work? If so, what helps? No matter how hard I try, I can't come up with the motivation to keep working...

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        Baconbutty
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        Frequently these days. The trouble is when it starts to go into weeks of endless drudgery, tedium and boredom. I often sack the work I am supposed to be doing (I'll have another go tomorrow) and try to investigate something different that is of interest to me but still loosely related to work, just in case a manager has a "Dilbert-boss" moment and decides to come out of their glass office and "rally the troops" and feign interest as to how the staff are doing. I am quite surprised that I managed to maintian enough interest to finish this message off :) I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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        • F FlamTaps

          Does anybody else have those days where you lack any and all motivation to do anything productive? Or feel like you don't have any direction in which to work? If so, what helps? No matter how hard I try, I can't come up with the motivation to keep working...

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          Paul Watson
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          I tend to do something completely different and try not to waste the day by battering my head against the task. If I am lacking code motivation I'll pick up some graphic design work or fire up Word and get some market research done. regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

          Shog9 wrote:

          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

          -- modified at 4:38 Tuesday 20th June, 2006

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          • F FlamTaps

            Does anybody else have those days where you lack any and all motivation to do anything productive? Or feel like you don't have any direction in which to work? If so, what helps? No matter how hard I try, I can't come up with the motivation to keep working...

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            WillemM
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            Getting out helps for me. Another environment and I get new ideas to work one. My parents have this chalet an hour away from where I live and it's a quiet place to be, gives you new motivation to get on with your work. WM.
            What about weapons of mass-construction?

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Matt Philmon wrote:

              Laziness: Uh... if someone figures this one out let me know.

              Start hanging around people and/or making friends with the type of person you want to be. Pretty soon it'll start rubbing off on you. Jeremy Falcon

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              Lost User
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              Unfortunately, the kind of people I want to be wouldnt come near me.... Nunc est bibendum

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              • C Christian Graus

                Do you still work there ? If so, I'm wondering how they reacted to your being an MVP ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                Dave Kreskowiak
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                Nope. I got really screwed by a large automotive manufacturer and the contract house I was working for in my last job, before I became an MVP. I was excelling at my job, coming up with better procedures, policies, standards, exception technical work, a team lead many times, technical lead, mentor, ... yada, yada, yada, ... getting fantastic reviews -- and was handed a massive paycut for my efforts, just before I closed on my first house. I was knocked back to what I was making back in 2000, and really have had a raise since. The job I'm currently in, pulled some "bait and switch" tactics to get me in here 2 years ago. They also have been loving the work I do, but the raise I got didn't even cover the rise in gas prices over the time I've been here. I can no longer afford to get to work some 60 miles away, soooo, off to Monster/CareerBuilder/Dice I go, looking for a new one. My last 5 jobs have been like this. I'm so tired of killing myself turning in fantasic work and getting the reviews for it and getting shafted in the paycheck. Oh, that paycut from the automotive manufacturer -- about 6 months after all the contractors were screwed, the executives at both companies, client and contract house, gave themselves raises that far exceeded the savings they got by cutting our paychecks. Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                • C Christian Graus

                  Do you still work there ? If so, I'm wondering how they reacted to your being an MVP ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                  Dave Kreskowiak
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                  Oh! And the MVP? They don't care. It apparently has nothing to do with my job that I'm a mentor in the community. Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                  • S S Douglas

                    Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                    If they're looking to trim staff, I'm hoping they'll keep me around simply because I'm the only one who knows how all the crap jobs work

                    To bad that doesn’t count, the only thing that seems to count is how dirty your nose is. :~


                    I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                    Dave Kreskowiak
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                    S Douglas wrote:

                    the only thing that seems to count is how dirty your nose is

                    Oh God, you have no idea how true that is in the automotive industry. I want to puke just thinking about it. Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                      Nope. I got really screwed by a large automotive manufacturer and the contract house I was working for in my last job, before I became an MVP. I was excelling at my job, coming up with better procedures, policies, standards, exception technical work, a team lead many times, technical lead, mentor, ... yada, yada, yada, ... getting fantastic reviews -- and was handed a massive paycut for my efforts, just before I closed on my first house. I was knocked back to what I was making back in 2000, and really have had a raise since. The job I'm currently in, pulled some "bait and switch" tactics to get me in here 2 years ago. They also have been loving the work I do, but the raise I got didn't even cover the rise in gas prices over the time I've been here. I can no longer afford to get to work some 60 miles away, soooo, off to Monster/CareerBuilder/Dice I go, looking for a new one. My last 5 jobs have been like this. I'm so tired of killing myself turning in fantasic work and getting the reviews for it and getting shafted in the paycheck. Oh, that paycut from the automotive manufacturer -- about 6 months after all the contractors were screwed, the executives at both companies, client and contract house, gave themselves raises that far exceeded the savings they got by cutting our paychecks. Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Have you thought about taking on your own clients ? Or you can do what I did ( find a job that's offering more money and let your boss know that it's on the table ). Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                      • D Dave Kreskowiak

                        S Douglas wrote:

                        the only thing that seems to count is how dirty your nose is

                        Oh God, you have no idea how true that is in the automotive industry. I want to puke just thinking about it. Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                        S Douglas
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                        Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                        Oh God, you have no idea how true that is in the automotive industry.

                        Oh, it's more than just the automotive industry. I have seen things that left me openly cusing and swearing... X|


                        I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Have you thought about taking on your own clients ? Or you can do what I did ( find a job that's offering more money and let your boss know that it's on the table ). Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                          Dave Kreskowiak
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                          Yeah, I'm getting my resume updated on the job boards first. I'll see what's out there in the Detroit area. And at the same time, look at picking up some side jobs. Are you on any particular sites for work, or just relying on word-of-mouth.com. It's been pretty difficult to get anything done because I've been so busy with the house. I tell ya, I've had had more crap go wrong this year than my entire time in the house combined! Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            Have you thought about taking on your own clients ? Or you can do what I did ( find a job that's offering more money and let your boss know that it's on the table ). Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                            Dave Kreskowiak
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                            Yeah, I'm getting my resume updated on the job boards first. I'll see what's out there in the Detroit area. And at the same time, look at picking up some side jobs. Are you on any particular sites for work, or just relying on word-of-mouth.com. As soon as I get an offer that looks good, I'm planning on figuring out what it'll save me in gas, add that to what I'm making now, then call my boss and say "Hey! I've got an offer and it'll cost you $xx,xxx much just to match it! Oh! I remember you said 'I wish I could give you more, but it's not in the budget!' Guess I'll be leaving now! :)" Basically, if I get an offer within 20 miles of my house at the same money I'm making now, it'll result in a $300/month raise in my net, not gross, income. On top of that, I'm already grossly under-payed by about $10,000 a year. I've got nowhere to go but up! How cool is that? :) Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                              Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                              Oh God, you have no idea how true that is in the automotive industry.

                              Oh, it's more than just the automotive industry. I have seen things that left me openly cusing and swearing... X|


                              I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:

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                              Dave Kreskowiak
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                              Automotive was my worst experience to date. I actually completely lost my cool and started kicking my office furniture around. :( Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                              • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                Yeah, I'm getting my resume updated on the job boards first. I'll see what's out there in the Detroit area. And at the same time, look at picking up some side jobs. Are you on any particular sites for work, or just relying on word-of-mouth.com. As soon as I get an offer that looks good, I'm planning on figuring out what it'll save me in gas, add that to what I'm making now, then call my boss and say "Hey! I've got an offer and it'll cost you $xx,xxx much just to match it! Oh! I remember you said 'I wish I could give you more, but it's not in the budget!' Guess I'll be leaving now! :)" Basically, if I get an offer within 20 miles of my house at the same money I'm making now, it'll result in a $300/month raise in my net, not gross, income. On top of that, I'm already grossly under-payed by about $10,000 a year. I've got nowhere to go but up! How cool is that? :) Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                Are you on any particular sites for work, or just relying on word-of-mouth.com.

                                *grin* I tried rent a coder, it was a disaster. Beyond that, all my work has come from CP, one way or the other, people seeing my articles. Now I'm lucky enough to have a friend in Texas who is generating more work than I can cope with.

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                                Oh! I remember you said 'I wish I could give you more, but it's not in the budget!'

                                LOL - I didn't actually want to move, but it sounds like you do :P

                                Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                                I've got nowhere to go but up! How cool is that?

                                That's the spirit. And your MVP WILL have a lot of cache with potential employers. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                • B bryce

                                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                  Start hanging around people and/or making friends with the type of person you want to be

                                  ahh hell back to the strippers then Bryce --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                                  Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                                  Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  bryce wrote:

                                  ahh hell back to the strippers then

                                  :laugh::laugh::laugh: Jeremy Falcon

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