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  • J jith iii

    Rob Graham wrote:

    Yea, the locals just politely remove your head

    Or you would be shot down by US millitary.Very friendly,service minded folks:->

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    jithAtran - ii wrote:

    Very friendly,service minded folks

    They are, until you try and chop off their heads. ;P Jeremy Falcon

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    • J Josh Smith

      Ok, I'll ask a few more questions, just to make sure that I have a rough idea of what you might like. A. List your top three or four priorities: 1) Fine dining 2) Theater 3) Concerts (mention preferred genres) 4) Museums 5) City Tours 6) Misc/Unusual 7) Night life/clubs 8) Book/Music Stores 9) Other (mention what) B. Have you or Smitha been to NYC before? If so, when? Where did you visit? C. Where will you be staying? Is this unknown? Does the hotel you stay in matter a lot, or would you prefer to spend more on activities? D. Do you drink? If so, what type of drinks do you prefer? Josh

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      Nish Nishant
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      Josh Smith wrote:

      A. List your top three or four priorities:

      1. Fine dining 5) City Tours 9) Other - see major landmarks like the Staue of Liberty 4) Museums

      Josh Smith wrote:

      B. Have you or Smitha been to NYC before? If so, when? Where did you visit?

      Nope. This will be the first time.

      Josh Smith wrote:

      C. Where will you be staying? Is this unknown? Does the hotel you stay in matter a lot, or would you prefer to spend more on activities?

      Most likely in a hotel. Hotel would be just a place to sleep at - so we are not looking for a great hotel with a lot of facilities. We may also be staying with a friend (not sure on that though).

      Josh Smith wrote:

      D. Do you drink? If so, what type of drinks do you prefer?

      I do. I love trying out various varieties of cocktails. Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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      • N Nish Nishant

        It's hard to judge politeness across different cultures. I can't speak for all of India, but people in my state don't say thank you, sorry, please etc all that often - that is not part of our language system. The Malayalam equivalents of those words are only used formally. Similarly opening doors for others is not something people do - if you tried to do that, you'd just get a lot of curious glances. When I first worked abroad, I was quite surprised by how often people would say "how are you" to you, and then they'd walk away without waiting for an answer. Initially I thought this was pretty weird and that this was a sort of pseudo-politeness. Later I got used to it. It's pretty much the same in Toronto. People just wish you well, and ask you how you are, and walk away without waiting for a conversation - it's a different sort of culture from what we have back in India. Eventually, you have to understand how a society behaves, before judging how polite or rude people are. I still haven't fully got used to the Canadian politeness, and I am sure most people find me pretty rude and weird - specially on the phone. Oh well - I have to work on it. So, thanks a lot to everyone for reading my post, and I hope you are all in good health, and sorry if I took away your time, and thanks once again. :rolleyes: Regards, Nish


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        Dustin Metzgar
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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        The Malayalam equivalents of those words are only used formally.

        <cheesy_joke>Are those words all palindromes too?</cheesy_joke>


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        • C Christopher Duncan

          Nope, not a formal suit kinda guy, only wear them when required. A little drunk? Nish, you have a gift for understatement. Still, we had fun, didn't we? :-D Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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          Nish Nishant
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          Christopher Duncan wrote:

          A little drunk? Nish, you have a gift for understatement.

          Trying to be polite like a New Yorker there :rolleyes:

          Christopher Duncan wrote:

          Still, we had fun, didn't we?

          Yep, we did :-D Regards, Nish


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          • D Dustin Metzgar

            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

            The Malayalam equivalents of those words are only used formally.

            <cheesy_joke>Are those words all palindromes too?</cheesy_joke>


            Logifusion[^]

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            Nish Nishant
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            Dustin Metzgar wrote:

            Are those words all palindromes too?

            Some words may be, if transliterated and spelled out in English :-) Regards, Nish


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            • C Christopher Duncan

              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

              Have they heard NYC is called "home of the rude"? I worked there for a year, and must say there is a lot of truth in it.

              Any culture that you don't sufficiently understand will appear strange and rude to you. That said, within any culture there's a fair proportion of jerks. Maybe your magnet is just polarized the wrong way. :-D Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              Christopher Duncan wrote:

              Any culture that you don't sufficiently understand will appear strange and rude to you.

              NYC never looked strange to me, just rude. Actually, in this regard it reminds me of my hometown :)


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              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                Chadlling wrote:

                New York City

                :omg: Have they heard NYC is called "home of the rude"? I worked there for a year, and must say there is a lot of truth in it.


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                I have visited New York a couple of dozen time and I have lived my whole life in Toronto. I would say people in New York are definitely friendlier than Torontonians, although Torontonians might be slightly more polite. The only Americans who AREN'T friendly and polite are New Englanders. New York is way more friendly than Boston.

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                • C Chadlling

                  I have visited New York a couple of dozen time and I have lived my whole life in Toronto. I would say people in New York are definitely friendlier than Torontonians, although Torontonians might be slightly more polite. The only Americans who AREN'T friendly and polite are New Englanders. New York is way more friendly than Boston.

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                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                  Chadlling wrote:

                  The only Americans who AREN'T friendly and polite are New Englanders. New York is way more friendly than Boston.

                  :omg: You must be kidding. Bostonians are way more friendly and polite than New Yorkers. Well, except in the traffic :)


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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Josh Smith wrote:

                    A. List your top three or four priorities:

                    1. Fine dining 5) City Tours 9) Other - see major landmarks like the Staue of Liberty 4) Museums

                    Josh Smith wrote:

                    B. Have you or Smitha been to NYC before? If so, when? Where did you visit?

                    Nope. This will be the first time.

                    Josh Smith wrote:

                    C. Where will you be staying? Is this unknown? Does the hotel you stay in matter a lot, or would you prefer to spend more on activities?

                    Most likely in a hotel. Hotel would be just a place to sleep at - so we are not looking for a great hotel with a lot of facilities. We may also be staying with a friend (not sure on that though).

                    Josh Smith wrote:

                    D. Do you drink? If so, what type of drinks do you prefer?

                    I do. I love trying out various varieties of cocktails. Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                    Josh Smith
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                    I'll get back to you with my suggestions soon. Josh

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                    • J Josh Smith

                      I'll get back to you with my suggestions soon. Josh

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      Josh Smith wrote:

                      I'll get back to you with my suggestions soon.

                      Thanks Josh. Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        He's such a shiny happy person...

                        I've seen him once - but he was a little drunk then, and there were too many people. But yeah, he was a nice shiny person alright - I was surprised to see him in a leather jacket and all that. I had sorta imagined him to be the sort of person who'd always be seen in public in a formal suit :-) Regards, Nish


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                        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        I was surprised to see him in a leather jacket and all that

                        He is in a letahre jacket in his pict . I was surprised he did not have a leash.


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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          It's hard to judge politeness across different cultures. I can't speak for all of India, but people in my state don't say thank you, sorry, please etc all that often - that is not part of our language system. The Malayalam equivalents of those words are only used formally. Similarly opening doors for others is not something people do - if you tried to do that, you'd just get a lot of curious glances. When I first worked abroad, I was quite surprised by how often people would say "how are you" to you, and then they'd walk away without waiting for an answer. Initially I thought this was pretty weird and that this was a sort of pseudo-politeness. Later I got used to it. It's pretty much the same in Toronto. People just wish you well, and ask you how you are, and walk away without waiting for a conversation - it's a different sort of culture from what we have back in India. Eventually, you have to understand how a society behaves, before judging how polite or rude people are. I still haven't fully got used to the Canadian politeness, and I am sure most people find me pretty rude and weird - specially on the phone. Oh well - I have to work on it. So, thanks a lot to everyone for reading my post, and I hope you are all in good health, and sorry if I took away your time, and thanks once again. :rolleyes: Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                          dandy72
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                          > So, thanks a lot to everyone for reading my post, and I hope you are all in good health, and sorry if I > took away your time, and thanks once again [Walks away before responding...] :rolleyes:

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                          • C Christopher Duncan

                            Having experienced both, let me first say that in order to appreciate the warmth of New Yorkers you have to take their interaction within the context of their culture, not yours. Once you do, you'll find them warm and friendly folks. My brief visit to Toronto left me with the impression of not only incredibly polite and welcoming people, but the cleanest major city I've ever seen. The subways didn't have a scratch on them, and you could eat off the floors. Having never visited India I know nothing of the cities and social experience there, but all in all, Toronto and NYC are two of my favorite cities. I miss the folks in both. Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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                            Lost User
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                            Christopher Duncan wrote:

                            you have to take their interaction within the context of their culture, not yours

                            Very true and applicable to many situations. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                              I have visited New York a couple of dozen time and I have lived my whole life in Toronto. I would say people in New York are definitely friendlier than Torontonians, although Torontonians might be slightly more polite. The only Americans who AREN'T friendly and polite are New Englanders. New York is way more friendly than Boston.

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                              Josh Smith
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                              Chadlling wrote:

                              The only Americans who AREN'T friendly and polite are New Englanders. New York is way more friendly than Boston.

                              Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to make a generalization about how "friendly and polite" millions of people are. X|

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                              • C Chadlling

                                According to this unscientific study two of the 3 most polite cities in the world are in North America... New York City and Toronto. Indian cities were at the bottom of the list with Mumbai coming in last. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap\_travel/20060621/ap\_tr\_ge/travel\_briefs\_polite\_cities](<a href=)[^]" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20060621/ap_tr_ge/travel_briefs_polite_cities[^][[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap\_travel/20060621/ap\_tr\_ge/travel\_briefs\_polite\_cities](<a href= "New Window")[^]">^]

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                                dandy72
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                                > two of the 3 most polite cities in the world are in North America... New York City and Toronto. "Excuse me?" :rolleyes:

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  I was surprised to see him in a leather jacket and all that

                                  He is in a letahre jacket in his pict . I was surprised he did not have a leash.


                                  My Blog

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                                  Christopher Duncan
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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                  I was surprised he did not have a leash.

                                  :laugh: Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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                                    > So, thanks a lot to everyone for reading my post, and I hope you are all in good health, and sorry if I > took away your time, and thanks once again [Walks away before responding...] :rolleyes:

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Daniel Desormeaux wrote:

                                    [Walks away before responding...] :rolleyes:

                                    :laugh: Regards, Nish


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                                    • C Christopher Duncan

                                      Having experienced both, let me first say that in order to appreciate the warmth of New Yorkers you have to take their interaction within the context of their culture, not yours. Once you do, you'll find them warm and friendly folks. My brief visit to Toronto left me with the impression of not only incredibly polite and welcoming people, but the cleanest major city I've ever seen. The subways didn't have a scratch on them, and you could eat off the floors. Having never visited India I know nothing of the cities and social experience there, but all in all, Toronto and NYC are two of my favorite cities. I miss the folks in both. Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      When this came on the TV the other night, my father in law said 'singapore' ( before they said who it was ) and I said no, I reckon it's in the USA. Singapore was fine, and people were OK. But when I was in the USA I was often taken by how polite and friendly people were. They were the same in Canada, but I was with Nish and I figured that his legend preceded me :-) Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                        When this came on the TV the other night, my father in law said 'singapore' ( before they said who it was ) and I said no, I reckon it's in the USA. Singapore was fine, and people were OK. But when I was in the USA I was often taken by how polite and friendly people were. They were the same in Canada, but I was with Nish and I figured that his legend preceded me :-) Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                        Edbert P
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                                        Singapore? Ask anyone who's been there for more than a few weeks holiday and you'll find 90% of them will say no. They're so infamous for being selfish and arrogant. IMO, Thailand would be one of the friendliest and most polite countries in the world. "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner" - Ross Edbert Sydney, Australia

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                                        • N Nish Nishant

                                          Josh Smith wrote:

                                          A. List your top three or four priorities:

                                          1. Fine dining 5) City Tours 9) Other - see major landmarks like the Staue of Liberty 4) Museums

                                          Josh Smith wrote:

                                          B. Have you or Smitha been to NYC before? If so, when? Where did you visit?

                                          Nope. This will be the first time.

                                          Josh Smith wrote:

                                          C. Where will you be staying? Is this unknown? Does the hotel you stay in matter a lot, or would you prefer to spend more on activities?

                                          Most likely in a hotel. Hotel would be just a place to sleep at - so we are not looking for a great hotel with a lot of facilities. We may also be staying with a friend (not sure on that though).

                                          Josh Smith wrote:

                                          D. Do you drink? If so, what type of drinks do you prefer?

                                          I do. I love trying out various varieties of cocktails. Regards, Nish


                                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                          Josh Smith
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                                          The first thing I recommend is that you get yourself a copy of The NFT Guide (Not For Tourists)[^] This is the guide book that many New Yorkers use to explore the city they live in! It is much better than any other guide book for NYC that I've ever seen. A.

                                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                          1. Fine dining 5) City Tours 9) Other - see major landmarks like the Staue of Liberty 4) Museums

                                          Fine Dining) My personal favorites: Blue Smoke - BBQ/Jazz[^] Zutto - Japanese food[^] Sparks - Steakhouse[^] You can also get a lot of great Indian cuisine in "Indian Alley", which is on 6th street between Avenues 1 and 2. City Tours) I've heard that this[^] place is good for tours. They provide helicopter and boat tours as well as regular bus tours, which sound really cool. Never tried it, though, so don't bark it me if they suck. :) Other) Whatever you don't see on your tour(s), consult your copy of the NFT book for info about getting to the landmarks you are interested in. Museums) Consult NFT for overviews of the musuems. But the Museum of Natural History is awesome. I've heard that the Bodies Exhibition[^] is extremely cool from many people. I'm going to check it out soon. B & C. Since you've never been to NYC before, I recommend staying either in the city or very close to it. There is so much to do here that it would be a shame to spend chunks of time traveling to/from your hote

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