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Why are there so few girls in programming?

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  • A ankita patel 0

    I did my undergrad in computer engineering from India and had very few girls compared to guys in my class. I guess there were around 14-15 in the class of 50-54. Then I came to USA for my MS in computer science. And guess what, probably less percent of girls then undergrad and almost all of them were foreign students. I rarely saw an american girl in computer science or electrical eng. classes. Ankita

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    leckey 0
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    Most of the other girls who were with me (usually 2 or 3) were Indian/Pakistani (is it Pakistani or Pakistanian?) My alma matter has a large Indian student population. Most of the girls are engineering of some kind. I hired on Indian female grad student at my last job and she was just the nicest. But I have a question, why do so many Indian students come to the US for engineering? Are the universities in India considered subpar? I'm curious.

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      leckey wrote:

      For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.)

      Very few girls in my classes (in the U.S., btw). For the most part, they were shy, and the majority were foreign. I recall only two "white" girls in all of my classes.

      leckey wrote:

      But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?

      I really have no idea why, but I would like to know, too. Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles

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      Do you think the math seems "too hard"? I know it was intimidating to me before I started.

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        Do you think the math seems "too hard"? I know it was intimidating to me before I started.

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        Jon Sagara
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        It's hard to generalize that. I would say no, but I always enjoyed my Math classes. Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles

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          Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!

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          Shog9 0
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          leckey wrote:

          Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming.

          Sorry, i don't buy it. Hardly any girls like programming, everyone knows that - but plenty of programmers like to play fast and lose with the sex of their online personas. I suspect you are merely one of the latter... :suss:

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            Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!

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            Jerry Hammond
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            Cause everything goes to the HDD?

            “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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            • L leckey 0

              Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              leckey wrote:

              But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?

              Because most of them have a life? :laugh: Jeremy Falcon

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                Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!

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                Captain CAD
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                I dont know why? Where I work about 10% of the programmers are girls the are excellent programmers. The head of engineering is a woman and the company CEO is a woman. When I was in school long time ago, we had a few girls they too were excellent. I wish we had more girls programming they are easier to work with and are not arrogant! My $0.02 worth Thx

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                  I dont know why? Where I work about 10% of the programmers are girls the are excellent programmers. The head of engineering is a woman and the company CEO is a woman. When I was in school long time ago, we had a few girls they too were excellent. I wish we had more girls programming they are easier to work with and are not arrogant! My $0.02 worth Thx

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                  There are monsters too. Those who are a bit old, not married, lacking love. :|

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                  • L leckey 0

                    Most of the other girls who were with me (usually 2 or 3) were Indian/Pakistani (is it Pakistani or Pakistanian?) My alma matter has a large Indian student population. Most of the girls are engineering of some kind. I hired on Indian female grad student at my last job and she was just the nicest. But I have a question, why do so many Indian students come to the US for engineering? Are the universities in India considered subpar? I'm curious.

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                    ankita patel 0
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                    leckey wrote:

                    is it Pakistani or Pakistanian?)

                    I think Pakistani.

                    leckey wrote:

                    why do so many Indian students come to the US for engineering? Are the universities in India considered subpar?

                    There many reasons. Number of engineering students in India is very high. And very small percentage of these students come to US for higher education, and most of them generally goes to well reputed US schools. Now there are some excellent engineering schools in India, but many many new government and private eng. colleges are opening every year too. And most of them are not very subpar with these US universities. Another reason is for the students who wants to immigrate to US and get a good job, getting a US degree is the best choice. Ankita

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                      Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!

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                      derry755
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                      People think girls take more genius in language rather than logic thinking. But there were still one third girls in my collage times. As far as I know, few of them are concerned with programming now... Doing is better than saying.

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                      • L leckey 0

                        Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!

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                        nicko
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                        leckey wrote:

                        I'm curious how many girls you had in classes

                        In my course (in Australia) there were about 8 chicks in about 100 students - not many, and about 7 of those would have been asian.

                        leckey wrote:

                        But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?

                        probably because there aren't many girls in programming - i mean, it probably seems daunting to step into what is predominantly a male domain and i guess most feel like they won't be taken seriously. Personally, i'd love to see more chicks in programming!;) nicko

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                          leckey wrote:

                          Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming.

                          Sorry, i don't buy it. Hardly any girls like programming, everyone knows that - but plenty of programmers like to play fast and lose with the sex of their online personas. I suspect you are merely one of the latter... :suss:

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Shog9 wrote:

                          but plenty of programmers like to play fast and lose with the sex of their online personas. I suspect you are merely one of the latter...

                          After reading this post[^] I can believe this. Either he/she is a guy, desperate for attention or both. Jeremy Falcon

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                            leckey wrote:

                            I'm curious how many girls you had in classes

                            In my course (in Australia) there were about 8 chicks in about 100 students - not many, and about 7 of those would have been asian.

                            leckey wrote:

                            But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?

                            probably because there aren't many girls in programming - i mean, it probably seems daunting to step into what is predominantly a male domain and i guess most feel like they won't be taken seriously. Personally, i'd love to see more chicks in programming!;) nicko

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                            HakunaMatada
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                            nicko wrote:

                            Personally, i'd love to see more chicks in programming

                            Me too. Beautiful, hot chicks. :rolleyes: --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!

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                            • J Jon Sagara

                              leckey wrote:

                              For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.)

                              Very few girls in my classes (in the U.S., btw). For the most part, they were shy, and the majority were foreign. I recall only two "white" girls in all of my classes.

                              leckey wrote:

                              But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?

                              I really have no idea why, but I would like to know, too. Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles

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                              Paul Selormey
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                              Jon Sagara wrote:

                              I recall only two "white" girls in all of my classes.

                              How do those Color.White girls look like? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                              • P Paul Selormey

                                Jon Sagara wrote:

                                I recall only two "white" girls in all of my classes.

                                How do those Color.White girls look like? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                                like Color.FromArgb(255, 255, 255) ;P rara avis in terris

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                                  Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!

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                                  code frog 0
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                                  I was in class with 1 girl that I remember. To me it just doesn't seem like most of the girls I know have a natural bent towards science or engineering those who do seem quite good at it though.


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                                    Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!

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                                    The other day I had a manager tell me that they were going to hire a young woman that had previously worked at the company. She finished her masters and was lured away to become a consultant but can't live with the travel. The reason they want to hire her back is that they can offer her a lower rate because they believe she is less qualified. From her work that I reviewed I can say she is as qualified as any other programmer working on the projects. I am not saying this is common but if young women believe that they are going to paid less and not respected it could scare them away from the occupation.

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                                      leckey wrote:

                                      For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.)

                                      Very few girls in my classes (in the U.S., btw). For the most part, they were shy, and the majority were foreign. I recall only two "white" girls in all of my classes.

                                      leckey wrote:

                                      But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?

                                      I really have no idea why, but I would like to know, too. Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles

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                                      code frog 0
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                                      Dang, the one girl in my classes was attractive and confident. Had I been single I'd have been trolling in *that* water...


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                                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        but plenty of programmers like to play fast and lose with the sex of their online personas. I suspect you are merely one of the latter...

                                        After reading this post[^] I can believe this. Either he/she is a guy, desperate for attention or both. Jeremy Falcon

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                                        leckey 0
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                                        Okay, I was just trying to be funny...not trying to be desperate for attention!

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                                          Okay, I was just trying to be funny...not trying to be desperate for attention!

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          leckey wrote:

                                          not trying to be desperate for attention!

                                          On a site that's 99.99% guys? That's tough to believe. Jeremy Falcon

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