Why are there so few girls in programming?
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Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!
Cause everything goes to the HDD?
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Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!
leckey wrote:
But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?
Because most of them have a life? :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!
I dont know why? Where I work about 10% of the programmers are girls the are excellent programmers. The head of engineering is a woman and the company CEO is a woman. When I was in school long time ago, we had a few girls they too were excellent. I wish we had more girls programming they are easier to work with and are not arrogant! My $0.02 worth Thx
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I dont know why? Where I work about 10% of the programmers are girls the are excellent programmers. The head of engineering is a woman and the company CEO is a woman. When I was in school long time ago, we had a few girls they too were excellent. I wish we had more girls programming they are easier to work with and are not arrogant! My $0.02 worth Thx
There are monsters too. Those who are a bit old, not married, lacking love. :|
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Most of the other girls who were with me (usually 2 or 3) were Indian/Pakistani (is it Pakistani or Pakistanian?) My alma matter has a large Indian student population. Most of the girls are engineering of some kind. I hired on Indian female grad student at my last job and she was just the nicest. But I have a question, why do so many Indian students come to the US for engineering? Are the universities in India considered subpar? I'm curious.
leckey wrote:
is it Pakistani or Pakistanian?)
I think Pakistani.
leckey wrote:
why do so many Indian students come to the US for engineering? Are the universities in India considered subpar?
There many reasons. Number of engineering students in India is very high. And very small percentage of these students come to US for higher education, and most of them generally goes to well reputed US schools. Now there are some excellent engineering schools in India, but many many new government and private eng. colleges are opening every year too. And most of them are not very subpar with these US universities. Another reason is for the students who wants to immigrate to US and get a good job, getting a US degree is the best choice. Ankita
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Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!
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Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!
leckey wrote:
I'm curious how many girls you had in classes
In my course (in Australia) there were about 8 chicks in about 100 students - not many, and about 7 of those would have been asian.
leckey wrote:
But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?
probably because there aren't many girls in programming - i mean, it probably seems daunting to step into what is predominantly a male domain and i guess most feel like they won't be taken seriously. Personally, i'd love to see more chicks in programming!;) nicko
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leckey wrote:
Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming.
Sorry, i don't buy it. Hardly any girls like programming, everyone knows that - but plenty of programmers like to play fast and lose with the sex of their online personas. I suspect you are merely one of the latter... :suss:
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leckey wrote:
I'm curious how many girls you had in classes
In my course (in Australia) there were about 8 chicks in about 100 students - not many, and about 7 of those would have been asian.
leckey wrote:
But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?
probably because there aren't many girls in programming - i mean, it probably seems daunting to step into what is predominantly a male domain and i guess most feel like they won't be taken seriously. Personally, i'd love to see more chicks in programming!;) nicko
nicko wrote:
Personally, i'd love to see more chicks in programming
Me too. Beautiful, hot chicks. :rolleyes: --- With best regards, A Manchester United Fan The Genius of a true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan!
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leckey wrote:
For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.)
Very few girls in my classes (in the U.S., btw). For the most part, they were shy, and the majority were foreign. I recall only two "white" girls in all of my classes.
leckey wrote:
But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?
I really have no idea why, but I would like to know, too. Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles
Jon Sagara wrote:
I recall only two "white" girls in all of my classes.
How do those Color.White girls look like? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Jon Sagara wrote:
I recall only two "white" girls in all of my classes.
How do those Color.White girls look like? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
like Color.FromArgb(255, 255, 255) ;P rara avis in terris
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Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!
I was in class with 1 girl that I remember. To me it just doesn't seem like most of the girls I know have a natural bent towards science or engineering those who do seem quite good at it though.
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Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!
The other day I had a manager tell me that they were going to hire a young woman that had previously worked at the company. She finished her masters and was lured away to become a consultant but can't live with the travel. The reason they want to hire her back is that they can offer her a lower rate because they believe she is less qualified. From her work that I reviewed I can say she is as qualified as any other programmer working on the projects. I am not saying this is common but if young women believe that they are going to paid less and not respected it could scare them away from the occupation.
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leckey wrote:
For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.)
Very few girls in my classes (in the U.S., btw). For the most part, they were shy, and the majority were foreign. I recall only two "white" girls in all of my classes.
leckey wrote:
But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers?
I really have no idea why, but I would like to know, too. Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles
Dang, the one girl in my classes was attractive and confident. Had I been single I'd have been trolling in *that* water...
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leckey wrote:
not trying to be desperate for attention!
On a site that's 99.99% guys? That's tough to believe. Jeremy Falcon
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I was in class with 1 girl that I remember. To me it just doesn't seem like most of the girls I know have a natural bent towards science or engineering those who do seem quite good at it though.
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code-frog wrote:
To me it just doesn't seem like most of the girls I know have a natural bent towards science or engineering those who do seem quite good at it though.
All other factors aside (like someone doesn't want an education), I'd wager most women tend to prefer an emotionally fulfilling job over a logically fulfilling one. Granted there are exceptions, but I don't think the reason it's mainly guys is some big accident. Jeremy Falcon
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I did my undergrad in computer engineering from India and had very few girls compared to guys in my class. I guess there were around 14-15 in the class of 50-54. Then I came to USA for my MS in computer science. And guess what, probably less percent of girls then undergrad and almost all of them were foreign students. I rarely saw an american girl in computer science or electrical eng. classes. Ankita
The numbers are even worse in electrical engineering I remember when I was in school there were 65 guys an 2 to 4 girls in most of my core EE classes. John
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code-frog wrote:
To me it just doesn't seem like most of the girls I know have a natural bent towards science or engineering those who do seem quite good at it though.
All other factors aside (like someone doesn't want an education), I'd wager most women tend to prefer an emotionally fulfilling job over a logically fulfilling one. Granted there are exceptions, but I don't think the reason it's mainly guys is some big accident. Jeremy Falcon
Yeah and I don't mean this off-color at all but this question to me seems just like asking "Why don't women want to be topless dancers?" Some do and many don't. "Why don't women want to fly F-16's?" Some do many don't. I think a really good question would be how many of you got into computer programming because you played tons of video games and that was what piqued your curiousity to make an in-road? Or more generically... "What led you into programming as a field of study?" I think for most of us *something* did. For me it was a total accident. I started out as a mechanical engineer because I love to build things. But ME school bored me stiff. As I was going through it though I had to take a C programming class and the counselor told me not to do it he said do something else C programming is too hard. I looked at him and said what can be so hard about it? He said, don't do it. I said, sign me up. I got an A, changed majors and never looked back. Them were the days. I'll never forget my first program either. "Given any amount of money output how many quarters, dimes, nickels and pennies represent the amount. You have to use the maximum number of each currency before dropping into a lower currency value." I loved that class and still have the book. K & R BABY!!!
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Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year. For those of you with a formal education I'm curious how many girls you had in classes, how they acted (shy? open for discussion?), ethnic diversity (we had a few foreign girls but i was the only "white" girl in most of my classes.) But why do you think so few girls go into programming/computers? Other girls please give your feedback!
leckey wrote:
Okay, I'm a girl and I like programming. I'm not very good at it yet, but I do like it. I've done research on women in science and the number of girls going into "computer" (whether programming, IT, etc.) keeps dropping significantly every year.
I think interest is the key more than anything. I recently did a presentation for high school students to introduce them to my work. Ironically it was the ladies in the group that were more interested in my job. Either the ladies faked it really well (possible) or were more interested in virtual terrain rendering systems. The math and physics neither intimidated nor interested them, whereas the young men were more interest in direct application of math and physics and less interested in the overall global application. But part again is encouragement. Women are discouraged from IT careers by A) overzealous male IT students B) social stereotypes of adults C)social stereotypes of peers. Either you have to be very stubborn and want to fight your way through to get the career you want (and even males don't like to do this), or are lucky not to get the stigma of IT to affect your career choice. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)