Middle East
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Isn't Sharon a War Criminal (1982) and wanted in Belgium ? He is in the same league as Hitler, saddam and Molosovik
John Smith wrote: He is in the same league as Hitler ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Dan Pomerchik wrote: The problem is that the hatred is so strong and that you cant change their point of view after years of miseducation. Yes, it is mis-education and not religion which is the true cause of most of the world's problems. I'm just glad and lucky to have had the chance to be educated and taught to think for myself. I wish more of the worlds population could get the opportunity. Michael :-)
Yeh. Personally , I dont feel any hatred for the palestinians or arabs in general. My family had once an arab friend, and it was just cool. If I walk in the street and see arabs, I am not scared or point at them or something like them. I do feel hatred for those suiciders. My opionions are not extreme at all comparing to others I talk with. I believe we can get to an agreement, but first we got to understand them. They're different, that's obvious, but different is good! what if all the people was the same? - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Isn't Sharon a War Criminal (1982) and wanted in Belgium ? He is in the same league as Hitler, saddam and Molosovik
He's not wanted yet. An investigation has been opened regarding his actions in refugee camps
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well, both sides are wrong, but we've seen that talking to arafat is like talking to a wall. I don't beleive any more in the peace. He is declaring "no fire" but the bombers continue. I beleive those assfuckers bombers are getting their "moral" from arafat, that is - he is pushing them to do so, and they have nothing to lose anyway. I beleive that if we threaten them that their family's house will be bombed after a bomber commit suicide, than maybe some of those bombers will think twice before they do what they do. I dont tend to be smart then anybody, but obviously the talking way is not the solution. We are talking about deeply dipressed people who have nothing to lose anyway, and they beleive that when they bomb us they go to heaven with 70 virgins. so what can we do?! another possible thing to do is bury the bodies with a pig skin and then the terrorists "will go to hell" but its not practical cause we got religion and its against the law etc blah blah. (also we SHOULD NOT return the bodies to them!) - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Dan Pomerchik wrote: He is declaring "no fire" but the bombers continue I'm not sure he has the control over all the terrorist groups, as the Hamas or the Islamic Djihad. Dan Pomerchik wrote: they believe that when they bomb us they go to heaven with 70 virgins Probably not true when the kamikaze is a woman, and Al-aqsa "Martyrs" don't seem to be religious. Dan Pomerchik wrote: what can we do?! You alone ? Probably nothing, the solution has to come from elsewhere. Somebody has to go between to stop the fight. I understand your frustation and your anger, but IMHO undiscriminated violence is not the solution, far from that, 'cause you loose your moral superiority in this case ! And in front of World public opinions, that's the point. It's funny how we get started. They get their money from the things on you. They get your money and the girls and the fame. I only do it for the fun. That's my game. KoRn, "Counting"
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Do you blame them, You have taken over their land and left them to rot !!!
You're right too, but are we the only one? We were sentenced to death by those nazis , and now we finally have our own country. We can get to an agreement, and the two sides may live together. It's just a question of understanding them. The problem is that they want the whole pie. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Dan Pomerchik wrote: It does not important if its in their religion. they beleive it and thats all. I'm just curious about where the myth started, in what place in history. I'd do an internet search but searching for virgin on the internet brings up a lot of "interesting" sites that I can't view at work. :-D Michael :-)
lol.. its ok to laugh at this sometimes. we should not be depressed all the time. any way, its is a known fact that they beleive it. I dunno the exact source of this belief. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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In the left corner : Sharon the butcher of Palistianians. In the right corner : Hitler WHO LOOKS BAD ? OR ARE THEY THE SAME ?
Interesting perspective. Surely Sharon has self defence (if a little extreme) has an excuse. The Jews weren't much of a threat to Hitler apart from in his own head. Bottom line, a lot of people need to hang their heads in shame for their involvment in the Middle East problem. It's easy to place the blame, what the world need is somebody bold enough to step forward and make a difference. Michael :-)
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In the left corner : citizens going for a Passover dinner in a holiday evening. In the right corner : suicider bombing out innocent people eating Passover dinner in a holiday evening. WHO LOOKS BAD ?! - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
in the left corner : a small group of rabid extremists targeting innocents in the right corner : an large regular army targeting innocents with high-tech weapons And now ?
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John Smith wrote: He is in the same league as Hitler ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
it's not supposed to be funny
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Dan Pomerchik wrote: He is declaring "no fire" but the bombers continue I'm not sure he has the control over all the terrorist groups, as the Hamas or the Islamic Djihad. Dan Pomerchik wrote: they believe that when they bomb us they go to heaven with 70 virgins Probably not true when the kamikaze is a woman, and Al-aqsa "Martyrs" don't seem to be religious. Dan Pomerchik wrote: what can we do?! You alone ? Probably nothing, the solution has to come from elsewhere. Somebody has to go between to stop the fight. I understand your frustation and your anger, but IMHO undiscriminated violence is not the solution, far from that, 'cause you loose your moral superiority in this case ! And in front of World public opinions, that's the point. It's funny how we get started. They get their money from the things on you. They get your money and the girls and the fame. I only do it for the fun. That's my game. KoRn, "Counting"
Karl wrote: I'm not sure he has the control over all the terrorist groups That's right. He dont have the control over all of them. But he dont do anything to stop the bombs. He supports it. Karl wrote: Somebody has to go between to stop the fight. Yes. And that should come from the exterior. Karl wrote: undiscriminated violence is not the solution I haven't said it is. I just dont think that by talking between ourselves we will solve anything. I am against violence in general , but they passed all the lines. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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You're right too, but are we the only one? We were sentenced to death by those nazis , and now we finally have our own country. We can get to an agreement, and the two sides may live together. It's just a question of understanding them. The problem is that they want the whole pie. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
The pie that is righfully yours ?
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it's not supposed to be funny
by "not funny" i mean he should not have say this. Its not a common-sense thing to say. You cant compare anybody to hitler. He was a pure racist murder. There is nobody like him. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Michael P Butler wrote: The key is communication and education you're right. That is the main problem here. The education. From the day a palestinain born (not every palestinian of course, I make no collective) he is taught to throw stones at Tzahal soldiers. Later he use rifles and than goes to bomb himself. Its start with the education when they're young. The problem is that the hatred is so strong and that you cant change their point of view after years of miseducation. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Dan Pomerchik wrote: The problem is that the hatred is so strong and that you cant change their point of view after years of miseducation. Their fathers and brothers are humiliated by those soldiers. Some of their playmates have been shot by those soldiers when throwing stones. (bullets vs stones , nice match)
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well forget about the pigskin. I don't tend to say its the solution or anything. But its obvious that talking is not the solution. I don't know what to do and my government dont either - and that's the problem. its a tough situation , and I dont envy Sharon or anybody else. It's easy to talk from outside. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
I have a great admiration for Rabin because he had the courage to talk and to seek a way out of the spiral of violence. Sharon is just reaping the results of his own actions. It is indeed easy to talk from the outside but then again we can talk without much emotional problems. Do you really think that waging war on the Palestinians like Sharon is doing now will solve the situation ?
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The pie that is righfully yours ?
Not at all. It's not mine rightfully, but when we wanted to give them some of the land they want , all they say is they want all. they won't compromise. so, what should we do, give up all our country? - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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Not at all. It's not mine rightfully, but when we wanted to give them some of the land they want , all they say is they want all. they won't compromise. so, what should we do, give up all our country? - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
They never stated they wanted all. They want Jerusalem (or part of it) which apparently Israel is not prepared to share.
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Karl wrote: I'm not sure he has the control over all the terrorist groups That's right. He dont have the control over all of them. But he dont do anything to stop the bombs. He supports it. Karl wrote: Somebody has to go between to stop the fight. Yes. And that should come from the exterior. Karl wrote: undiscriminated violence is not the solution I haven't said it is. I just dont think that by talking between ourselves we will solve anything. I am against violence in general , but they passed all the lines. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Dan Pomerchik wrote: That's right. He dont have the control over all of them. But he dont do anything to stop the bombs. He supports it. And the proof of that is ? Besides how is he going to stop them when Israel has all but destroyed his police force ?
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wtf?! if you like to know , one year ago i was the only one that said we can make a peace and talk to them. Every time i turn on the TV I see more bombs and more death and more tears and more pain. Why? because we don't do anything. John Smith wrote: This really surprise me, as Jews got the same treatment from the Nazi's That's right. I am supporting this opinion BUT John Smith wrote: Now you are doing the same to the Pallistians. WHAT EXACTLY are we doing to them!? nothing! after the lynch in ramalla about one year ago, which was a terrible thing what we did? we blow their radio station. so what? we warned them first so they can escape from there , so NO HURT will be made. what exactly we're doing to them ? i wanna know. [EDIT] INNOCENT PALESTIANS!? - we aint innocent either , but them!? YOU dont see the WHOLE picture. you see crap. you see us. you dont see them blowing us to pieces. ITS CRAPPY UNBELIEVABLE. you cant talk like that unless you live here. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Dan Pomerchik wrote: John Smith wrote: This really surprise me, as Jews got the same treatment from the Nazi's That's right. I am supporting this opinion BUT No comments. Dan Pomerchik wrote: WHAT EXACTLY are we doing to them!? nothing! To begin with, just compare the number of victims from each side over the past year or two! You see pain and sorrow of Jews, but you don't see, or rather don't want to see, pain and sorrow of Arabs. It looks like (and your posts prove it) you treat them like some sort of animals rather than human beings. That is very close indeed to what the Nazi's did with respect to Jews. Regards, Nikolay
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I have a great admiration for Rabin because he had the courage to talk and to seek a way out of the spiral of violence. Sharon is just reaping the results of his own actions. It is indeed easy to talk from the outside but then again we can talk without much emotional problems. Do you really think that waging war on the Palestinians like Sharon is doing now will solve the situation ?
William De Prêtre wrote: I have a great admiration for Rabin Me too. I was very sad when he was murdered. William De Prêtre wrote: Do you really think that waging war on the Palestinians like Sharon is doing now will solve the situation ? Well no, but Sharon is not doing a waging war on them. Of course, he gotta react after 3 bombs in one day.What do you want him to do? nothing ? - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
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by "not funny" i mean he should not have say this. Its not a common-sense thing to say. You cant compare anybody to hitler. He was a pure racist murder. There is nobody like him. - Dan "Intel inside - Idiot outside"
Pol Pot ? Anyway, Sharon may not be Hitler yet but he's getting there slowly but surely. PS : tell me, a long while ago footage was shown of Israeli soldiers breaking Palestian boys' arms with rocks. What is the military purpose of this ? Does it stop terrorism ?