Excellent Article On Racism
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
or some reason, most Indians ended up with a "lighter colored skin means more beautiful" idea implanted into their brains.
A legacy of the British Empire?
It's probably a legacy from so far back in time, the brits still hadn't been conquered by the romans. :)
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All healthy people prefer the company of their own kind
At this point, this article is racist. There are plenty of white people who are not 'my kind'. I can think of plenty of people with dark skin who I regard as 'my kind'. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
At this point, this article is racist. There are plenty of white people who are not 'my kind'. I can think of plenty of people with dark skin who I regard as 'my kind'.
Well said.:rose: John Carson "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
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Racism is looking at a Black person and say "they are different to me". Why do people have to be white Americans or Black Americans. Why cant you look at a Black person and say "there goes my American brother"? Your background does not define you as a person. You poor little hate filled person. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Well, I wouldn't say that recognizing visual differences between people is racism. But letting those differences affect how you treat those who are different from you, is. It's tantamount to treating people with straight hair differently than people with curly hair. Doesn't really compute. In my mind at least. On the other hand - when you choose a partner; is the rejection of a person racism, if you consider his or her looks? For instance, east asian people have narrow eyes. If you don't find that attractive, and you choose not to date him or her because of that, are you then a racist? Would it be different from rejecting people with curly hair, because you really dig people with straight hair? I can agree on that it's superficial, but I'm not too sure that it's racist. Defining racism is hard. You could probably nail a definition which 90% of everybody would agree on, but never 100%.
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Racism is looking at a Black person and say "they are different to me". Why do people have to be white Americans or Black Americans. Why cant you look at a Black person and say "there goes my American brother"? Your background does not define you as a person. You poor little hate filled person. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Josh Gray wrote:
Racism is looking at a Black person and say "they are different to me".
No it's not. It's a person of any race looking at another person and determining that he is superior solely based on race.
Josh Gray wrote:
Your background does not define you as a person.
Huh? Your background is what develops your character and defines you as a quality or a worthless person.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Racism is looking at a Black person and say "they are different to me".
No it's not. It's a person of any race looking at another person and determining that he is superior solely based on race.
Josh Gray wrote:
Your background does not define you as a person.
Huh? Your background is what develops your character and defines you as a quality or a worthless person.
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JCParker wrote:
There is only one race that matters.
The race of hot chicks? :rolleyes: Regards, Nish
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Well, I wouldn't say that recognizing visual differences between people is racism. But letting those differences affect how you treat those who are different from you, is. It's tantamount to treating people with straight hair differently than people with curly hair. Doesn't really compute. In my mind at least. On the other hand - when you choose a partner; is the rejection of a person racism, if you consider his or her looks? For instance, east asian people have narrow eyes. If you don't find that attractive, and you choose not to date him or her because of that, are you then a racist? Would it be different from rejecting people with curly hair, because you really dig people with straight hair? I can agree on that it's superficial, but I'm not too sure that it's racist. Defining racism is hard. You could probably nail a definition which 90% of everybody would agree on, but never 100%.
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Sorry, I meant seeing them as a different kind of person based on their appearance and as you say treating them differently as a result. The point I wnt to make is we should recognise the similarities between ourselves and others and not concentrate on the differences. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
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espeir wrote:
However, US airport security is supposedly not allowed to racially profile and I usually see whites being searched.
The whites being searched could be just a pretence. It's important to double check all brown people - so since they cannot racially profile people, they need to do dummy checks on some whites and blacks too :-) Just a theory of course.
espeir wrote:
I just think that whenever a racial minority endures the same thing everybody else does, they get the feeling that it's because they're a minority.
Possibly true. Minorities are automatically defensive. Regards, Nish
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
The whites being searched could be just a pretence.
Actually most of the searches are based upon a code written on your boarding pass. I discovered this when I was pulled out of line and had to stand in a queue for a flight to Seattle from Boston two years ago. There are a variety of codes, my particular code (and I checked with the guy in line behind me who was also caucasian and had the same code on his boarding pass) was because I'd bought the plane ticket the day before. And I'm as Boston as they come having been born and raised a little ways north of there. Mike Poz
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
so there you go. a question is asked, answered - but since it wasn't politically correct it is wrong.
Jesus H. Christ. I actually agreed that the time for the things you listed has passed. But I also picked apart how it didn't answer my question. The original assertion that whites are being asked to ignore whites in order to support other races is pure hyperbole, and I couldn't let it to go unchallenged. Here's what it all comes down to for me: 1. There is no such thing as race. It is a scientifically invalid concept. (In other words: there is more variation within a so called "race" than there is between races, so there's no point in paying attention to race.) 2. Racists still exist. And you don't have to be white to be one. 3. Whites still have the power in this country, but then we are a mostly white country. Minorities used to have zero power, and this has changed dramatically through extraordinary efforts by people of all races. We are not there yet. (See #2.) 4. If given a level playing field, skewing things in favor for minorities only perpetuates inferiority. 5. When not given a level playing field, those who are in power and making the field unlevel should be forced to make it level. 6. If you believe everything is now on a level field for everybody, you live in a fantasy world.
David Kentley wrote:
The original assertion that whites are being asked to ignore whites in order to support other races is pure hyperbole, and I couldn't let it to go unchallenged
It's not hyperbole when where you work, live or go to school "diversity" is chosen over "ability". BTW, "diversity" is the new name for "affirmative action". And I know quite a few white guys who got shafted because of "diversity". Mike Poz
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Racism is looking at a Black person and say "they are different to me". Why do people have to be white Americans or Black Americans. Why cant you look at a Black person and say "there goes my American brother"? Your background does not define you as a person. You poor little hate filled person. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Josh Gray wrote:
You poor little hate filled person.
:(( Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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Racism is looking at a Black person and say "they are different to me". Why do people have to be white Americans or Black Americans. Why cant you look at a Black person and say "there goes my American brother"? Your background does not define you as a person. You poor little hate filled person. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Josh Gray wrote:
"there goes my American brother"?
Because too many times I have personally heard black men abuse white men for saying that they are brothers. Want to hear something funny? Until I graduated from high school and enlisted in the Marines, I had no idea I was racist. I just thought I was a fair skinned American who had white, black, asian, latin (and a mix of all those) friends and neighbors. It was pointed out to me by a number of black Marines from the south that since I'm white, I am racist because I didn't "understand the black man" and because I didn't feel "sorry for the abuses heaped upon the black man in the form of slavery." Mike Poz
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Josh Gray wrote:
You poor little hate filled person.
:(( Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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Every time you post a responce that consists of an icon and nothing else you are proving to everyone the child you are. DO you have something to say? Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Josh Gray wrote:
Every time you post a responce that consists of an icon and nothing else you are proving to everyone the child you are. DO you have something to say?
Like i am the only one who makes responses consisting of only an icon. :rolleyes: Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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Josh Gray wrote:
"there goes my American brother"?
Because too many times I have personally heard black men abuse white men for saying that they are brothers. Want to hear something funny? Until I graduated from high school and enlisted in the Marines, I had no idea I was racist. I just thought I was a fair skinned American who had white, black, asian, latin (and a mix of all those) friends and neighbors. It was pointed out to me by a number of black Marines from the south that since I'm white, I am racist because I didn't "understand the black man" and because I didn't feel "sorry for the abuses heaped upon the black man in the form of slavery." Mike Poz
Mike Poz wrote:
Because too many times I have personally heard black men abuse white men for saying that they are brothers.
Bad choise of words by me. how about "there goes my fellow American"
Mike Poz wrote:
It was pointed out to me by a number of black Marines from the south that since I'm white, I am racist because I didn't "understand the black man" and because I didn't feel "sorry for the abuses heaped upon the black man in the form of slavery."
Which just goes to show that there are idiots of every colour. I would say the same thing to them. They should recognise that you have a lot in common and not focus on the differences. You were all Americans serving your country. We have similar issues here with our Aboriginal population. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
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Sorry, I meant seeing them as a different kind of person based on their appearance and as you say treating them differently as a result. The point I wnt to make is we should recognise the similarities between ourselves and others and not concentrate on the differences. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Josh Gray wrote:
Sorry, I meant seeing them as a different kind of person based on their appearance and as you say treating them differently as a result. The point I wnt to make is we should recognise the similarities between ourselves and others and not concentrate on the differences.
Well why don't you tell that to the illegal immigrants here that march with signs saying that Americans are "nazis" for wanting to send them back Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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Josh Gray wrote:
Every time you post a responce that consists of an icon and nothing else you are proving to everyone the child you are. DO you have something to say?
Like i am the only one who makes responses consisting of only an icon. :rolleyes: Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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Like i am the only one who makes responses consisting of only an icon.
"Like" that makes it ok. Its like dude like if someone else like does it it doesnt mean like that you should like do it. Do you have something to say on the topic of this thread in responce to my post or not? Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
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Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Like i am the only one who makes responses consisting of only an icon.
"Like" that makes it ok. Its like dude like if someone else like does it it doesnt mean like that you should like do it. Do you have something to say on the topic of this thread in responce to my post or not? Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Josh Gray wrote:
Do you have something to say on the topic of this thread in responce to my post or not?
Yes.[^] Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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Josh Gray wrote:
Sorry, I meant seeing them as a different kind of person based on their appearance and as you say treating them differently as a result. The point I wnt to make is we should recognise the similarities between ourselves and others and not concentrate on the differences.
Well why don't you tell that to the illegal immigrants here that march with signs saying that Americans are "nazis" for wanting to send them back Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
Ummm....how would I tell them? Messenger piggion perhaps? I dont think then tend to hang around here much. I doubt there are many of them that feel that way but as usual you only see the extremes. I would imagine that is directed more at the policy of your goverenment than a blanket statement about American people. Hell if they meant all American people that would include all the non illigal immigrants from their own country. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
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Ummm....how would I tell them? Messenger piggion perhaps? I dont think then tend to hang around here much. I doubt there are many of them that feel that way but as usual you only see the extremes. I would imagine that is directed more at the policy of your goverenment than a blanket statement about American people. Hell if they meant all American people that would include all the non illigal immigrants from their own country. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear
Josh Gray wrote:
Hell if they meant all American people that would include all the non illigal immigrants from their own country.
It was directed at the american people that care enough about their country to want the illegal immigrants to get out. This forum software is really fucking up Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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Josh Gray wrote:
Hell if they meant all American people that would include all the non illigal immigrants from their own country.
It was directed at the american people that care enough about their country to want the illegal immigrants to get out. This forum software is really fucking up Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir