What is the coldest fire?
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Another question is how cold is the coldest color.
Black should be the coldest color, as it's the absence of color, which also means the absence of electromagnetic radiation.
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Nothing! Nothing always give the best result! ;P What's fire anyway? It's the light radiated (when cooling) by agitated gaz released by a chemical reaction. So the coldest fire would be a chemical reaction releasing non-excited gaz. Perhaps an endo-thermal reaction relasing gaz? (Not all chemical reaction release energy, some absorbs it, they are called endo-thermal reaction).
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The "coldest" colour would be the one with the least energy in it. In the EM that would be red, whereas violet/blue has the most energy.
Infrared is a lower energy color than red. But he asked about fire. Fire is an exothermic oxidation reaction that autothermocatalyses (is sped up by the heat it produces). In the absence of autothermocatalysis it isn't burning, it's rusting. Before this argument can be settled there must be agreement on the meaning of temperature with a strict, unambiguous definition of temperature. You will find this harder than it looks.
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Red paint. The tigress is here :-D
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The "coldest" colour would be the one with the least energy in it. In the EM that would be red, whereas violet/blue has the most energy.
Rohde wrote:
In the EM
In the visible EM range.
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Rohde wrote:
In the EM
In the visible EM range.
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Well, since black technically isn't a colour, it really isn't correct to say it's the coldest colour...in a way.
not *that* discussion again... :rolleyes:
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Another question is how cold is the coldest color.
Black should be the coldest color, as it's the absence of color, which also means the absence of electromagnetic radiation.
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You're on glue.:-D Black absorbs light from every spectrum making it quite hot. White is the coolest color as it reflects light from almost all spectrums. Hence people wear white to stay cool.
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If paper burns at some temperature and coal and gas at another, what is the object that gives the coldest fire? Another question is how cold is the coldest color. I believe different colors represent different temperatures.
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Color alone isn't the best way to get your answer. Color's interact with light and absorb or reflect heat. Black will be the hottest as it absorbs light from every spectrum. Moving towards white will be cooler and hence white is the coldest color. No coincidence that snow is white but when it's warm it's clear and deep water looks black. Since a flame can only be produced in the presence of oxygen the coolest flame will present in the least amount of oxygen that can still burn. Once you have established a ceiling for oxygen then find gases that have the lowest "flash-point".
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You're on glue.:-D Black absorbs light from every spectrum making it quite hot. White is the coolest color as it reflects light from almost all spectrums. Hence people wear white to stay cool.
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Surely, you're talking about the objects rather than their colors, right? If you dress in reflective white, and you let the white light bounce off onto me (all dressed in black), I will surely heat up, because of the hot white light. The fact that I get hot has nothing to do with the light I emit, but what I can absorb. But then again, I've been wrong before. :)
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Color alone isn't the best way to get your answer. Color's interact with light and absorb or reflect heat. Black will be the hottest as it absorbs light from every spectrum. Moving towards white will be cooler and hence white is the coldest color. No coincidence that snow is white but when it's warm it's clear and deep water looks black. Since a flame can only be produced in the presence of oxygen the coolest flame will present in the least amount of oxygen that can still burn. Once you have established a ceiling for oxygen then find gases that have the lowest "flash-point".
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Surely, you're talking about the objects rather than their colors, right? If you dress in reflective white, and you let the white light bounce off onto me (all dressed in black), I will surely heat up, because of the hot white light. The fact that I get hot has nothing to do with the light I emit, but what I can absorb. But then again, I've been wrong before. :)
Surely I'm just harassing you. I've never had a chance to say you are on glue and this was my first opportunity (even though it was weak on my part :) ) I had to make an attempt. :laugh:
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Surely I'm just harassing you. I've never had a chance to say you are on glue and this was my first opportunity (even though it was weak on my part :) ) I had to make an attempt. :laugh:
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Heh, I'm pretty bad to recognize when people are messing with me, when all I've got to go on is text. Might be a reason why I always get so wound up in arguments. :~ I want facial expressions and hear the pitch and tones of voice! :-D
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By definition: Temperature is the measure of heat ENERGY. The lower the tempurature - the less heat energy. Liquid Hydrogen and oxigen released at a controlled rate at its evaporation point will burn the coldest flame because of it being so cold to begin with. Also, because of of the minimal energy output you will not see any light, so that is your coldest color - no light. Light and heat are both energy and the least energy is the absence of energy. The flame from the space shuttle (not the boosters) is a very thin light blue, but that is at an extreme rate of burn, not the whisper of flame that I am talking about in a dark and very cold room. Also, you have your spectrum backwords - Red light is hotter than blue - There is more energy in red light (The sun feels hot). On objects - black absorbs energy and white reflects it, but clear glass lets it pass thru - so once again - no color is the coolest. I hope this doesn't throw a monkey wrench into this discussion.:suss:
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By definition: Temperature is the measure of heat ENERGY. The lower the tempurature - the less heat energy. Liquid Hydrogen and oxigen released at a controlled rate at its evaporation point will burn the coldest flame because of it being so cold to begin with. Also, because of of the minimal energy output you will not see any light, so that is your coldest color - no light. Light and heat are both energy and the least energy is the absence of energy. The flame from the space shuttle (not the boosters) is a very thin light blue, but that is at an extreme rate of burn, not the whisper of flame that I am talking about in a dark and very cold room. Also, you have your spectrum backwords - Red light is hotter than blue - There is more energy in red light (The sun feels hot). On objects - black absorbs energy and white reflects it, but clear glass lets it pass thru - so once again - no color is the coolest. I hope this doesn't throw a monkey wrench into this discussion.:suss:
Good explanation. I've always known that the process of burning was the same for hot and cold. But the question that comes up now, since liquid hydrogen and oxygen are freezing temperatures and fire is extremely hot, is there a continuous line between those two temperatures for burning. Otherwise, my original question is still valid. What is the coldest fire and add to it what is the hottest evaporation rate for liquid gases?
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