Best UI Suite ? [modified]
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Josh Smith wrote:
Are the Dev Express reporting libraries a lot better than using Crystal Reports?
Yes, they are also better than most other reporting for .net components. As for what's better than using Crystal Reports, ummm..name just about any horrific activity you can think of, it's still better than using Crystal Reports. I have gray hairs that I can specifically attribute to Crystal Reports.
I work in a reporting group, but I never touch the stuff. I am a lucky man in that I get to code in nothing but C# WinForms all day (at least I see that as lucky). The closest I've come to CR is writing a windows service that processes the reports periodically. Other than that, no CR-related grays for me! ;P
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Hello, I finally "decided" (was forced :doh:) to use a UI Suite on my programs. But there are a lot out there. Which is in your opinion the best one ? Ben - edit - Ups sorry totally forgot. I'm just a boring MSVC++ developer :^)
http://www.prof-uis.com/[^] Excellent support too! ed ~"Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." -Frank Outlaw.
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Rubbing glass powder in your eyes or pulling your fingernails out one at a time is better than using Crystal Reports... Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com http://spaces.msn.com/members/sjackerman steve@acscontrol.com
I fell outa my chair, I laughed so hard. Can I use that? David Veeneman www.veeneman.com
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Hello, I finally "decided" (was forced :doh:) to use a UI Suite on my programs. But there are a lot out there. Which is in your opinion the best one ? Ben - edit - Ups sorry totally forgot. I'm just a boring MSVC++ developer :^)
Hi there, For a big SW project we did a long evaluation (2 years ago) and came up with: UI Suite: Infragistics (still one of the best) Charting: C1 (best performance for large data amounts) Reporting: List & Labels (not yet used but evaluated. Has some features we need that Crystal Reports doesn't have) Happy coding Daniel :-)
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Hello, I finally "decided" (was forced :doh:) to use a UI Suite on my programs. But there are a lot out there. Which is in your opinion the best one ? Ben - edit - Ups sorry totally forgot. I'm just a boring MSVC++ developer :^)
Web Apps: Infragistics suite is the best that I have used. We did a lot of evaluations last year and decided to go with IG....with no regrets. The one reson we never went for Dev Express for our Web Apps was that their web grid control didnt have the heirarchial functionality that IG has. Win Apps: Dev Express. Again, after a lot of evaluation we decide to use Dev Express for one of our Win products. They are very eay to use and provide a rich UI experience. The ability to change skin/themes on the fly was also a big plus, enabling users to customise their own look and feel. Cheers, Craig ** I'd rather try and fail than fail to try ;) **
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Web Apps: Infragistics suite is the best that I have used. We did a lot of evaluations last year and decided to go with IG....with no regrets. The one reson we never went for Dev Express for our Web Apps was that their web grid control didnt have the heirarchial functionality that IG has. Win Apps: Dev Express. Again, after a lot of evaluation we decide to use Dev Express for one of our Win products. They are very eay to use and provide a rich UI experience. The ability to change skin/themes on the fly was also a big plus, enabling users to customise their own look and feel. Cheers, Craig ** I'd rather try and fail than fail to try ;) **
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If you're using .NET then Infragistics is the best. Period. If someone tells you otherwise, they're lying. :) Josh
I also use Infragistics controls, and find them very good, but what really puts the icing on the cake for me, is the support. I have never emailed in a support request and not got back the answer I required. Most often the reply to my questions are returned with a small code sample showing the actual code. Fantastic !!!! Steve Jowett
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Hello, I finally "decided" (was forced :doh:) to use a UI Suite on my programs. But there are a lot out there. Which is in your opinion the best one ? Ben - edit - Ups sorry totally forgot. I'm just a boring MSVC++ developer :^)
hello, Does anyone know a free alternative? $ 945.25 (764 EUR) for Infragistics NetAdvantage .NET 2006 Volume 2 is not cheap. :omg: gtz, Niko
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IMHO they used to be the best unmanaged suite... until they started charging for it. Regards Thomas
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Hello, I finally "decided" (was forced :doh:) to use a UI Suite on my programs. But there are a lot out there. Which is in your opinion the best one ? Ben - edit - Ups sorry totally forgot. I'm just a boring MSVC++ developer :^)
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Hello, I finally "decided" (was forced :doh:) to use a UI Suite on my programs. But there are a lot out there. Which is in your opinion the best one ? Ben - edit - Ups sorry totally forgot. I'm just a boring MSVC++ developer :^)
I am currently using telerik radControls suite in a new project I'm working on. So far the controls seem pretty decent and the support is quite good. Support turn-around is fairly quick (accounting for time changes, they are based in Bulgaria) and often includes sample projects they create and provide as examples. I've never used Infragistics before, so when this project ends, I may give them a look, with an eye towards picking a winner for future projects.
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Hello, I finally "decided" (was forced :doh:) to use a UI Suite on my programs. But there are a lot out there. Which is in your opinion the best one ? Ben - edit - Ups sorry totally forgot. I'm just a boring MSVC++ developer :^)
OK, all you Infragistics fans out there: how many of you have used other UI suites? Infragistics is the most popular suite, but before you all worship it to death, tell us what it's better than. My experience is that vendors that sell specialized UI components (not in a suite) usually tend to be much better than any of the "complete suite" vendors. This may change in the future, but that's my 2 cents. In any case, most of the major American component vendors can be found here: http://www.components.org/About/cvcmembers.aspx It's not a complete list, but it's easier to search through than going to all the reseller sites.
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Josh Smith wrote:
Are the Dev Express reporting libraries a lot better than using Crystal Reports?
Yes, they are also better than most other reporting for .net components. As for what's better than using Crystal Reports, ummm..name just about any horrific activity you can think of, it's still better than using Crystal Reports. I have gray hairs that I can specifically attribute to Crystal Reports.
John Cardinal wrote:
ummm..name just about any horrific activity you can think of, it's still better than using Crystal Reports
Um, Access Reports served through a webserver. That's worse than Crystal. Not much, but it is worse. Payton Byrd blogs.ittoolbox.com/visualbasic/dotnet
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Hello, I finally "decided" (was forced :doh:) to use a UI Suite on my programs. But there are a lot out there. Which is in your opinion the best one ? Ben - edit - Ups sorry totally forgot. I'm just a boring MSVC++ developer :^)
Every .NET developer should have the following: Infragistics NetAdvantage Telerik RAD Controls Suite DevExpress (Suite or Reports) Infragistics, by far, has the best control set - they solved the component "craddle to grave" approach nicely meaning that you get an installer that does the job right, utilities that support project updating and vs.net toolbox installation. The help and support is also very good. Telerik (asp.net) are almost as good as Infragistics, focusing mostly on asp.net - the only annoying features are the installation, project updating, toolbox installation and in some cases the help. DevExpress - I've only used the Reports component, and it p^sses over alot of reporting components such as Crystal Reports, ActiveReports and ComponentOne to name but a few. Easy to use, flexible and a great reporting component. Get subscriptions with these components - it pays in the long run trust me :-D You should haven't have to invest much more the £1,500 to £2,000 (GBP) in all the products mentioned in this post. I also use the Xceed, ComponentArt Web.UI suites - but mainly for some web presentation, ZIP and FTP capabilities. Hope this helps :)
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If you're using .NET then Infragistics is the best. Period. If someone tells you otherwise, they're lying. :) Josh
Dunno if I'm lying or not but I can tell you from my experience - Infragistics can be a performance killer for any ASP.Net app. But then, the question here is winforms which I have no idea. And I agree to most of the views posted about Crystal Reports. Its hell on earth!
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Josh Smith wrote:
Are the Dev Express reporting libraries a lot better than using Crystal Reports?
A thousand times better. Cheers, Drew.
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I have worked with Crystal reports for a short period. i couldnt see any major problem with tht. any update/clue as to where the troube with CR begins? thanks
For starters, the report designer is absolutely horrific to work with. Try doing anything more than a simple report and you'll see what I mean. Keep in mind that I haven't even looked at it in 14 months or so. It could have improved since then. Cheers, Drew.
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Hello, I finally "decided" (was forced :doh:) to use a UI Suite on my programs. But there are a lot out there. Which is in your opinion the best one ? Ben - edit - Ups sorry totally forgot. I'm just a boring MSVC++ developer :^)
I've used a few different packages, including Infragistics, and my personal favorite is Teleriks R.A.D Controls. Easier to use in my opinion, that's all. http://www.telerik.com/asp-net-controls/ui-components/overview.aspx[^] Michael J. Collins Web Application Programmer