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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    It's probably obvious by now I'm bored. :laugh: I studied for 18 hours straight yesterday, and I'm not sure I want to get back into the grind again just yet. Jeremy Falcon

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    RC_Sebastien_C
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    that's ok, it's Friday :) Only posted this because your initial Holy Crap really made me laugh

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      Just out of curiosity, why won't you get your high school equivalency diploma? If you're as sharp as you say you are, you'll have no problem doing it. Plus, that'll probably get the old man off your back for a while. Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Site | My Blog | My Articles

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      I tried several times... I don't learn well in group settings...I get easily distracted... Second...I'm no longer interested...I mean...I know where I stand and i'm 27 years old...high school is a little late as I would be 30ish before I got into post secondary... Third, I looked into writting first/second year challenge exam for computer science...thing is...I would need money to take the exam and money to buy some of the course material (books)... I cannot afford to do this and my Dad won't help... Besides he doesn't care about my education anymore either... It's not really a problem either...as I am sure I could convince someone I'm capable...I have applications, articles, source code and code snippets to prove my skillset in many different languages and technologies... It's more of a lack of connections or business know how thats stopping me from getting anywhere... Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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        Josh Smith wrote:

        If your dev skills are as up to par as you say they are, then I don't see why you couldn't get a full-time dev job with a real company

        I wouldn't mind...but it would have to be doing something I enjoyed...otherwise there is no point... I've slowly lost interest in C++ development and only keep interested because the language itself is so damn cool and some of the libraries like Spirit just amaze me... PHP is it for me...or at least web development...but using C++ practically for web development is almost out of the question... I want to pursue a consultant position only because the flexibility it would afford me... Different projects every month or so... Instead of being stuck improving a project which I don't even believe in... I'll see where this consultant thing takes me...and maybe just get my answering machine to record messages and I can call them back on my land line instead of my cell phone :) Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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        Hockey wrote:

        I wouldn't mind...but it would have to be doing something I enjoyed...otherwise there is no point...

        No matter what type of gig you get, you'll never enjoy it all the time. There will be some days/weeks that just suck. Show me someone who claims to love every day of his/her work, and I'll show you a liar. :)

        Hockey wrote:

        I want to pursue a consultant position only because the flexibility it would afford me... Different projects every month or so...

        Oh no, my friend! Not necessarily! I'm a consultant and have been on the same project for 7 months, with another many more months left on my contract. Being a consultant doesn't guarantee anything, except that you will work your butt off (and make good money). If I were you, the main thing I'd focus on is beefing up my skill set so that my strong points are the things most in demand. Learn C#. Learn ASP.NET. If you are of the ilk, learn VB.NET. There are tons of old-schoolers out there cranking out PHP and the like. There's not much of a future in old technologies (I can feel the flames coming already :~ ). That's just my 2 cents, though. Josh

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          I tried several times... I don't learn well in group settings...I get easily distracted... Second...I'm no longer interested...I mean...I know where I stand and i'm 27 years old...high school is a little late as I would be 30ish before I got into post secondary... Third, I looked into writting first/second year challenge exam for computer science...thing is...I would need money to take the exam and money to buy some of the course material (books)... I cannot afford to do this and my Dad won't help... Besides he doesn't care about my education anymore either... It's not really a problem either...as I am sure I could convince someone I'm capable...I have applications, articles, source code and code snippets to prove my skillset in many different languages and technologies... It's more of a lack of connections or business know how thats stopping me from getting anywhere... Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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          :zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz:

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          • J Josh Smith

            Hockey wrote:

            I wouldn't mind...but it would have to be doing something I enjoyed...otherwise there is no point...

            No matter what type of gig you get, you'll never enjoy it all the time. There will be some days/weeks that just suck. Show me someone who claims to love every day of his/her work, and I'll show you a liar. :)

            Hockey wrote:

            I want to pursue a consultant position only because the flexibility it would afford me... Different projects every month or so...

            Oh no, my friend! Not necessarily! I'm a consultant and have been on the same project for 7 months, with another many more months left on my contract. Being a consultant doesn't guarantee anything, except that you will work your butt off (and make good money). If I were you, the main thing I'd focus on is beefing up my skill set so that my strong points are the things most in demand. Learn C#. Learn ASP.NET. If you are of the ilk, learn VB.NET. There are tons of old-schoolers out there cranking out PHP and the like. There's not much of a future in old technologies (I can feel the flames coming already :~ ). That's just my 2 cents, though. Josh

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            Josh Smith wrote:

            Show me someone who claims to love every day of his/her work, and I'll show you a liar.

            God, I can't find anyone who loves every day of their job. I am happily self-employed but there are some days that really suck.

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            • J Josh Smith

              Hockey wrote:

              I wouldn't mind...but it would have to be doing something I enjoyed...otherwise there is no point...

              No matter what type of gig you get, you'll never enjoy it all the time. There will be some days/weeks that just suck. Show me someone who claims to love every day of his/her work, and I'll show you a liar. :)

              Hockey wrote:

              I want to pursue a consultant position only because the flexibility it would afford me... Different projects every month or so...

              Oh no, my friend! Not necessarily! I'm a consultant and have been on the same project for 7 months, with another many more months left on my contract. Being a consultant doesn't guarantee anything, except that you will work your butt off (and make good money). If I were you, the main thing I'd focus on is beefing up my skill set so that my strong points are the things most in demand. Learn C#. Learn ASP.NET. If you are of the ilk, learn VB.NET. There are tons of old-schoolers out there cranking out PHP and the like. There's not much of a future in old technologies (I can feel the flames coming already :~ ). That's just my 2 cents, though. Josh

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              Josh Smith wrote:

              I can feel the flames coming already

              Old schoolers in PHP??? I dunno, the forums I visit are mostly guys my age...granted there are a few old timers...but mostly not... I beg to differ...I think PHP has some major advantages over even C# or anything .NET but to avoid flame wars...I'll avoid this like the plague :)

              Josh Smith wrote:

              Oh no, my friend! Not necessarily! I'm a consultant and have been on the same project for 7 months, with another many more months left on my contract. Being a consultant doesn't guarantee anything, except that you will work your butt off (and make good money).

              Fare enough, but project brevity was not quite the only factor in my decission... For example, I refuse to work on existing open source projects as most are poorly written and even more poorly documented...and some completely unsupported... I can save myself a lot of grief by simply not accepting projects like this...whereas at a day job you have no choice... Ideally, I would build SME web sites and applications... CRM, KBASE, CMMS, CMS, ERP, etc... Expert systems interst me...so the project would not get too boring... Besides...hate me as you will...but I would outsource most of the mundane boring coding to India... I much prefer project planning, designing, documentation, etc...I mean I enjoy coding too but only when i'm learning something new (like developing a search algorithm or something) I can't stand programming something I've already done... It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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              • A alex barylski

                http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=1555326#xx1555326xx[^] Why I have I chosen to create a new post...I felt it important that everyone that laughed at me had a better understanding of where I was coming from... :-D Perhaps it's my fault for not fully explaing in the first place... I chose Marc's post because...well...it was the biggest kick in the junk...sucks being called down by someone you respect... I'm gonna have to start calling Marc my Dad :P But that's a whole different can of worms ain't it??? :) My history (queue epic theme music): ==================================== I started programming at a very early age (nothing new I know a handfull of guys my age who did the same) and have therefore accumulated a vast amount of experience...covering everything from low level to high level...from desktop to web development...I am interested and very passionate about almost everything computers and being single and living at home with the parents I can afford to spend a great deal of time doing what I do best...learning new stuff...and tinkering with ideas, etc... I am currently employed at a minimum wage job delivering auto parts...as there are few programming jobs in my city...especially those which are worth my time and effort...I'm not complaining...I'm just saying... So if you feel the need to yell at me and say something like: "Move to another city" hold your breathe... I can't do anything if it doesn't make me happy...maintaining garbage scripts, etc...doesn't appeal to me...so despite better pay...I'd be as miserable doing that living on my own as I am living at home with my parents...but at least here I still have flexibility..which makes me happy... I dropped out of school, not to smoke pot in the hockey bleachers...but to read books on programming and study becoming a pilot (my original intent in life was to be a fighter pilot) of course...nothing ever turns out quite as expected... :P I drive my delivery truck *really* fast to compensate for my lack of fast flying...but only on desserted roads so no one is put at risk but me - don't worry MADD :) Around 5-6 years ago...I started thinking maybe I could make a living at programming...seeing how...well it's all I've done everyday of my life since I was about 7 or 8 years old...and despite not having a

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                once you are an adult I believe that you need to start acting like and adult. By that I mean being able to support yourself. Your parents deserve more respect. Working 3 days a week...you have got to be kidding.

                Hockey wrote:

                I can't do anything if it doesn't make me happy...maintaining garbage scripts, etc...doesn't appeal to me...so despite better pay...I'd be as miserable doing that living on my own

                There is nothing wrong with working a full-time job that may not be your ulimate destination to gain experience, good references, and contacts and pursuing you consultanting as well. Once you have built up your own business to the point that you can support yourself then you can quit the 'not so much fun' job. I know many people who have done this. Misery is in your perspective of the situation, not in the situation itself. cje

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                • A alex barylski

                  I tried several times... I don't learn well in group settings...I get easily distracted... Second...I'm no longer interested...I mean...I know where I stand and i'm 27 years old...high school is a little late as I would be 30ish before I got into post secondary... Third, I looked into writting first/second year challenge exam for computer science...thing is...I would need money to take the exam and money to buy some of the course material (books)... I cannot afford to do this and my Dad won't help... Besides he doesn't care about my education anymore either... It's not really a problem either...as I am sure I could convince someone I'm capable...I have applications, articles, source code and code snippets to prove my skillset in many different languages and technologies... It's more of a lack of connections or business know how thats stopping me from getting anywhere... Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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                  Hockey wrote:

                  I know where I stand and i'm 27 years old...high school is a little late as I would be 30ish before I got into post secondary...

                  My grandfather got his high school equivalency at age 45. It's more than just knowing where you are, it's proving you can stick by something and see it through to the end. For some reason companies and customers like to see someone finish what they started. :) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 16:27 Friday 30th June, 2006

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                  • A alex barylski

                    http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=1555326#xx1555326xx[^] Why I have I chosen to create a new post...I felt it important that everyone that laughed at me had a better understanding of where I was coming from... :-D Perhaps it's my fault for not fully explaing in the first place... I chose Marc's post because...well...it was the biggest kick in the junk...sucks being called down by someone you respect... I'm gonna have to start calling Marc my Dad :P But that's a whole different can of worms ain't it??? :) My history (queue epic theme music): ==================================== I started programming at a very early age (nothing new I know a handfull of guys my age who did the same) and have therefore accumulated a vast amount of experience...covering everything from low level to high level...from desktop to web development...I am interested and very passionate about almost everything computers and being single and living at home with the parents I can afford to spend a great deal of time doing what I do best...learning new stuff...and tinkering with ideas, etc... I am currently employed at a minimum wage job delivering auto parts...as there are few programming jobs in my city...especially those which are worth my time and effort...I'm not complaining...I'm just saying... So if you feel the need to yell at me and say something like: "Move to another city" hold your breathe... I can't do anything if it doesn't make me happy...maintaining garbage scripts, etc...doesn't appeal to me...so despite better pay...I'd be as miserable doing that living on my own as I am living at home with my parents...but at least here I still have flexibility..which makes me happy... I dropped out of school, not to smoke pot in the hockey bleachers...but to read books on programming and study becoming a pilot (my original intent in life was to be a fighter pilot) of course...nothing ever turns out quite as expected... :P I drive my delivery truck *really* fast to compensate for my lack of fast flying...but only on desserted roads so no one is put at risk but me - don't worry MADD :) Around 5-6 years ago...I started thinking maybe I could make a living at programming...seeing how...well it's all I've done everyday of my life since I was about 7 or 8 years old...and despite not having a

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                    Albert Pascual
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                    Hockey wrote:

                    It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

                    Don't know where to start ... My eMail control My Blog

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                    • A alex barylski

                      Josh Smith wrote:

                      I can feel the flames coming already

                      Old schoolers in PHP??? I dunno, the forums I visit are mostly guys my age...granted there are a few old timers...but mostly not... I beg to differ...I think PHP has some major advantages over even C# or anything .NET but to avoid flame wars...I'll avoid this like the plague :)

                      Josh Smith wrote:

                      Oh no, my friend! Not necessarily! I'm a consultant and have been on the same project for 7 months, with another many more months left on my contract. Being a consultant doesn't guarantee anything, except that you will work your butt off (and make good money).

                      Fare enough, but project brevity was not quite the only factor in my decission... For example, I refuse to work on existing open source projects as most are poorly written and even more poorly documented...and some completely unsupported... I can save myself a lot of grief by simply not accepting projects like this...whereas at a day job you have no choice... Ideally, I would build SME web sites and applications... CRM, KBASE, CMMS, CMS, ERP, etc... Expert systems interst me...so the project would not get too boring... Besides...hate me as you will...but I would outsource most of the mundane boring coding to India... I much prefer project planning, designing, documentation, etc...I mean I enjoy coding too but only when i'm learning something new (like developing a search algorithm or something) I can't stand programming something I've already done... It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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                      Josh Smith
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                      Hockey wrote:

                      I dunno, the forums I visit are mostly guys my age...granted there are a few old timers...but mostly not...

                      By 'old timers' I didn't mean people of advanced age. I meant people coding in technologies of advanced age. Sure, high school kids could (and might) write PHP apps. The user group is irrelevant.

                      Hockey wrote:

                      I can save myself a lot of grief by simply not accepting projects like this...whereas at a day job you have no choice... Ideally, I would build SME web sites and applications... CRM, KBASE, CMMS, CMS, ERP, etc... Expert systems interst me...so the project would not get too boring...

                      It looks like you know what you want to do. I'm sure you could find companies that need people to build those types of systems. Don't worry too much about getting bored. If you spend 8 or 12 months designing/creating some cool system and then get bored, get a new (and higher paying) job! That's the name of the game! :laugh:

                      Hockey wrote:

                      Besides...hate me as you will...but I would outsource most of the mundane boring coding to India... I much prefer project planning, designing, documentation, etc...I mean I enjoy coding too but only when i'm learning something new (like developing a search algorithm or something) I can't stand programming something I've already done...

                      No offense, but don't get your hopes up about being able to decide who will do the coding on a project, or being the master architect. If you get hired with few and hazy credentials, I seriously doubt the company will immediately let you manage a project. You'll be a grunt coder in the trenches, at least at first. To assume otherwise is delusional. Josh

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                      • A alex barylski

                        Thats my biggest problem... I've realized this for years...but it's difficult to make the transition from developer to businessman as they are very different skillsets... It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        Hockey wrote:

                        but it's difficult to make the transition from developer to businessman as they are very different skillets...

                        Definitely. Well, it sounds like you know what you need, go study some sales books by the greats like Tom Hopkins. If you get depressed about it, motivate yourself. If family won't help with the motivation then read some books/listen to tapes from Zig Ziglar. And so on and so forth. It's a people game now, so learning some social psychology will seriously help you out as well. And practice, practice, practice! Go, talk, make friends you've never met before. Get people to like you. If it's at the mall or something and they think you're nuts, no harm done. Learn from it and move on. My biggest problem is if I think someone is an idiot, it's written all lover my face. :laugh: I need to overcome that. The point is, find your weaknesses and fix them. With enough practice you'll probably end up being able to sell a block of ice to an Eskimo. Just don't give up. And remember, people like to be around positive people. So stay that way (yeah it's hard to do at times). Jeremy Falcon

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                        • A alex barylski

                          http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=1555326#xx1555326xx[^] Why I have I chosen to create a new post...I felt it important that everyone that laughed at me had a better understanding of where I was coming from... :-D Perhaps it's my fault for not fully explaing in the first place... I chose Marc's post because...well...it was the biggest kick in the junk...sucks being called down by someone you respect... I'm gonna have to start calling Marc my Dad :P But that's a whole different can of worms ain't it??? :) My history (queue epic theme music): ==================================== I started programming at a very early age (nothing new I know a handfull of guys my age who did the same) and have therefore accumulated a vast amount of experience...covering everything from low level to high level...from desktop to web development...I am interested and very passionate about almost everything computers and being single and living at home with the parents I can afford to spend a great deal of time doing what I do best...learning new stuff...and tinkering with ideas, etc... I am currently employed at a minimum wage job delivering auto parts...as there are few programming jobs in my city...especially those which are worth my time and effort...I'm not complaining...I'm just saying... So if you feel the need to yell at me and say something like: "Move to another city" hold your breathe... I can't do anything if it doesn't make me happy...maintaining garbage scripts, etc...doesn't appeal to me...so despite better pay...I'd be as miserable doing that living on my own as I am living at home with my parents...but at least here I still have flexibility..which makes me happy... I dropped out of school, not to smoke pot in the hockey bleachers...but to read books on programming and study becoming a pilot (my original intent in life was to be a fighter pilot) of course...nothing ever turns out quite as expected... :P I drive my delivery truck *really* fast to compensate for my lack of fast flying...but only on desserted roads so no one is put at risk but me - don't worry MADD :) Around 5-6 years ago...I started thinking maybe I could make a living at programming...seeing how...well it's all I've done everyday of my life since I was about 7 or 8 years old...and despite not having a

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                          I think Marcs response was there to indicate the irony of the situation. The fact that you were looking fro a way to bill those who were trying to get more information from you about you but then you were asking others for free. :) One thing I have learned in business is that you cannot expect to make a dime off of EVERY bit of your talent. Yes, you need to feel comfortable in asking to get paid for your work, you would not be a good business name and should in fact NOT be in charge of your business if you have a problem with asking to get paid, but you have to understand that it takes money to make money. Talking for free is one excellent way to spend money you don't have and will not miss to market yourself to a very large group. The cost of talk is nothing. Be willing to talk to people on the phone about your ideas (sans the gory money making details obviously). Take the time to make your name known on Usenet by answering questions that others are seeking answers to for free. I LOVE doing this because it does a few things. 1) The Internet is forever. You better believe that just about anyone looking to hire you as a consultant that knows anything about business is going to take a quick few minutes to Google your name. If they see you taking the time to help people on your own time solve issues not only have you just marketed yourself as a good corporate citizen and a team player but you have just boosted your personal advertising dollar 2 fold and it literally cost you nothing but your time. 2) It helps you sharpen your communications skills since you have to convey your technical prowess in print rather than over the phone. I also recommend that if you think you have something to say and need to get your name out, do so by writing articles here (something that I have not done yet) or try submitting articles to magazines for publications. Do anything that really in the long term costs you very little but can potentially net you a lot over the years. Consider opening yourself up to talking at user groups, schools, etc... Maybe the term looser was a bit harsh, but it probably got you thinking and opened you up to communication. In that end it did what I think it was supposed to do. Your attitude is good about it but it is what you will do with it that really counts. Now, with that said, keep in mind that you still have to live. You may not be able pay the bills if you hold out for doing something that you love. Look at it this way, even if you hate the job, if it is in the technical area th

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                            that's ok, it's Friday :) Only posted this because your initial Holy Crap really made me laugh

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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            HollyHooo wrote:

                            Only posted this because your initial Holy Crap really made me laugh

                            Glad I could help. Jeremy Falcon

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                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              You just won the longest post award.

                              Dang... that was almost as long as my longest poem... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                              that was almost as long as my longest poem

                              You wrote a poem about Hockey? :-D Jeremy Falcon

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                                Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                that was almost as long as my longest poem

                                You wrote a poem about Hockey? :-D Jeremy Falcon

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                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                You wrote a poem about Hockey?

                                Nope... the man who married the moon. You could say it is about not giving up and still setting your sights high! _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                • A alex barylski

                                  I tried several times... I don't learn well in group settings...I get easily distracted... Second...I'm no longer interested...I mean...I know where I stand and i'm 27 years old...high school is a little late as I would be 30ish before I got into post secondary... Third, I looked into writting first/second year challenge exam for computer science...thing is...I would need money to take the exam and money to buy some of the course material (books)... I cannot afford to do this and my Dad won't help... Besides he doesn't care about my education anymore either... It's not really a problem either...as I am sure I could convince someone I'm capable...I have applications, articles, source code and code snippets to prove my skillset in many different languages and technologies... It's more of a lack of connections or business know how thats stopping me from getting anywhere... Cheers :) It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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                                  Albert Pascual
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                                  Hockey wrote:

                                  Besides he doesn't care about my education anymore either...

                                  Made my point! You maybe don't care, however if you want to make more money you need education, education and education. Without that ... well ... My eMail control My Blog

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                                    Hockey wrote:

                                    I know where I stand and i'm 27 years old...high school is a little late as I would be 30ish before I got into post secondary...

                                    My grandfather got his high school equivalency at age 45. It's more than just knowing where you are, it's proving you can stick by something and see it through to the end. For some reason companies and customers like to see someone finish what they started. :) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 16:27 Friday 30th June, 2006

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                                    Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                    For some reason companies and customers like to see someone finish what they started.

                                    Good point. Jeremy Falcon

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                                      Hockey wrote:

                                      I know where I stand and i'm 27 years old...high school is a little late as I would be 30ish before I got into post secondary...

                                      My grandfather got his high school equivalency at age 45. It's more than just knowing where you are, it's proving you can stick by something and see it through to the end. For some reason companies and customers like to see someone finish what they started. :) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 16:27 Friday 30th June, 2006

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                                      Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                      For some reason companies and customers like to see someone finish what they started.

                                      Maybe it gives them some form of assurance that if someone starts a project for them, chances of the person finishing the project is good. I'd hate to invest in someone and see them bail out in the middle of a project.

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                                        http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?msg=1555326#xx1555326xx[^] Why I have I chosen to create a new post...I felt it important that everyone that laughed at me had a better understanding of where I was coming from... :-D Perhaps it's my fault for not fully explaing in the first place... I chose Marc's post because...well...it was the biggest kick in the junk...sucks being called down by someone you respect... I'm gonna have to start calling Marc my Dad :P But that's a whole different can of worms ain't it??? :) My history (queue epic theme music): ==================================== I started programming at a very early age (nothing new I know a handfull of guys my age who did the same) and have therefore accumulated a vast amount of experience...covering everything from low level to high level...from desktop to web development...I am interested and very passionate about almost everything computers and being single and living at home with the parents I can afford to spend a great deal of time doing what I do best...learning new stuff...and tinkering with ideas, etc... I am currently employed at a minimum wage job delivering auto parts...as there are few programming jobs in my city...especially those which are worth my time and effort...I'm not complaining...I'm just saying... So if you feel the need to yell at me and say something like: "Move to another city" hold your breathe... I can't do anything if it doesn't make me happy...maintaining garbage scripts, etc...doesn't appeal to me...so despite better pay...I'd be as miserable doing that living on my own as I am living at home with my parents...but at least here I still have flexibility..which makes me happy... I dropped out of school, not to smoke pot in the hockey bleachers...but to read books on programming and study becoming a pilot (my original intent in life was to be a fighter pilot) of course...nothing ever turns out quite as expected... :P I drive my delivery truck *really* fast to compensate for my lack of fast flying...but only on desserted roads so no one is put at risk but me - don't worry MADD :) Around 5-6 years ago...I started thinking maybe I could make a living at programming...seeing how...well it's all I've done everyday of my life since I was about 7 or 8 years old...and despite not having a

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                                        In my reply to your posting, I made some suggestions of a positive nature. I also suggested that if you really want to become a self employed person there are hoops you need to jump through otherwise you are very likely to waste not just time but an awful amount of money. Having a proper business plan which includes an investigation into your proposals as well as the production of Profit and Loss forcasting and Cashflow forcasting spreadsheets showing realistic proposed budgets not forgetting to perform a personal survival budget. These are a vital must. If you are not sure what these are (1) Business Plan, (2) Profit & Loss forcast, (3) Cashflow forcast, (4) Personal Survival Budget etc then you had better NOT take the self employed avenue until you know exactly the reason for their existence and the exact way in which you are to use these *LEGAL* documents. And these are not the only documentation that you must create. Contact me if you require further information

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                                          And I voted a 5 btw, because someone downvoted this and just don't see why. It's long (I mean, really really long ;P), but I didn't find it offensive or bad. Jeremy Falcon

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                                          I did vote 1, because what a moron decides that a high school diploma is not important? My eMail control My Blog

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