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VS2005 ROTD (Rant of the day!)

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  • O Obliterator

    How are you meant to edit toolbars with >256 colours??? I can't believe this limitation still remains!!! I would have thought that went out with the arc (or at least after VC6!) Especially given the latest move to high colour icons, themes, alpha blending and the like. How are people developing for Vista? At the very least, I would expect VS to open the standard windows image viewer instead of making me export the bmp and opening it manually :mad: Does anyone know of an add-in that provides the ability to edit high colour toolbars? Or a good toolbar editor app that supports vs2005 rc files? I see a toolbar editor here on CP, but it doesn't seem to work with vs2005 rc files. Cheers -- The Obliterator

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    Obliterator wrote:

    Does anyone know of an add-in that provides the ability to edit high colour toolbars?

    GIMP? PSP? Photoshop? I gave up on doing toolbar images all in one big bitmap years ago, as it's just too much of a hassle (you need another whole bitmap for each size, color depth, state...) I use one .ico file or resource for each button - this allows me to keep multiple sizes and color depths together - and then use a few simple algorithms to generate "hot" and disabled images at runtime. It's made things sooo much simpler, you might want to give it a try if you have more than a few toolbars...

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    • O Obliterator

      How are you meant to edit toolbars with >256 colours??? I can't believe this limitation still remains!!! I would have thought that went out with the arc (or at least after VC6!) Especially given the latest move to high colour icons, themes, alpha blending and the like. How are people developing for Vista? At the very least, I would expect VS to open the standard windows image viewer instead of making me export the bmp and opening it manually :mad: Does anyone know of an add-in that provides the ability to edit high colour toolbars? Or a good toolbar editor app that supports vs2005 rc files? I see a toolbar editor here on CP, but it doesn't seem to work with vs2005 rc files. Cheers -- The Obliterator

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      Dan Neely
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      The icon creation guide for XP style icons said to have your graphics artist make a highres one in photoshop and scale it to each required resolution after making it suitably shiny. VS05 didn't upgrade the icon tools because devs aren't supposed to be creating icons anymore.

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      • D Dan Neely

        The icon creation guide for XP style icons said to have your graphics artist make a highres one in photoshop and scale it to each required resolution after making it suitably shiny. VS05 didn't upgrade the icon tools because devs aren't supposed to be creating icons anymore.

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        but I/we cannot "edit" the toolbar in VS.net 2003, it wants to convert the bitmap to 16 colors. for example, if I want to add a spacer between to buttons, I need to have access to the toolbar editor ( not the toolbar bitmap editor )


        Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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        • D Dan Neely

          The icon creation guide for XP style icons said to have your graphics artist make a highres one in photoshop and scale it to each required resolution after making it suitably shiny. VS05 didn't upgrade the icon tools because devs aren't supposed to be creating icons anymore.

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          Anton Afanasyev
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          or, rather we can, but make them placeholders - i dunno, stick figures...yeah, that must be the way - stick_figure OPEN and FOLDER icons. anyone care to draw those for a good laugh? rara avis in terris

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          • A Anton Afanasyev

            or, rather we can, but make them placeholders - i dunno, stick figures...yeah, that must be the way - stick_figure OPEN and FOLDER icons. anyone care to draw those for a good laugh? rara avis in terris

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            that would be great - would love to see that. hehehe. :)

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            • M Maximilien

              but I/we cannot "edit" the toolbar in VS.net 2003, it wants to convert the bitmap to 16 colors. for example, if I want to add a spacer between to buttons, I need to have access to the toolbar editor ( not the toolbar bitmap editor )


              Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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              Jim Crafton
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              You could always do it programatically. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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              • D Dan Neely

                The icon creation guide for XP style icons said to have your graphics artist make a highres one in photoshop and scale it to each required resolution after making it suitably shiny. VS05 didn't upgrade the icon tools because devs aren't supposed to be creating icons anymore.

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                dan neely wrote:

                devs aren't supposed to be creating icons anymore

                Yeah, that works really well when you work for a big multinational corporation and you're told that the commercial art department will get to your request for 7 stinking icons sometime in Q2 of 2007.


                Software Zen: delete this;

                Fold With Us![^]

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                  Have you tried this[^]?


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                  Obliterator
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                  No I'd not seen that one. I'll give it a try. Thanks -- The Obliterator

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                  • M Maximilien

                    but I/we cannot "edit" the toolbar in VS.net 2003, it wants to convert the bitmap to 16 colors. for example, if I want to add a spacer between to buttons, I need to have access to the toolbar editor ( not the toolbar bitmap editor )


                    Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                    Obliterator
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                    Exactly my point! Well it seems I'm not alone in my request. Microsoft have an 'active suggestion' on their VS2005 feedback site. It now has 2 votes! I wonder how many it needs before they implement it?! https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=134188[^] -- The Obliterator

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                    • G Gary R Wheeler

                      dan neely wrote:

                      devs aren't supposed to be creating icons anymore

                      Yeah, that works really well when you work for a big multinational corporation and you're told that the commercial art department will get to your request for 7 stinking icons sometime in Q2 of 2007.


                      Software Zen: delete this;

                      Fold With Us![^]

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                      Obliterator
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                      heheh agreed. but without a toolbar editor how is a developer meant to work with the shiny images when he eventually gets them from the art department?! answer obviously is the hard way - by hand! -- The Obliterator

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                      • O Obliterator

                        No I'd not seen that one. I'll give it a try. Thanks -- The Obliterator

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        Try [http://www.codeproject.com/tools/ToolbarEditor.asp](<a href=)[^]" rel="nofollow">this[[http://www.codeproject.com/tools/ToolbarEditor.asp](<a href= "New Window")[^]">^] as well.


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                        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                          Try [http://www.codeproject.com/tools/ToolbarEditor.asp](<a href=)[^]" rel="nofollow">this[[http://www.codeproject.com/tools/ToolbarEditor.asp](<a href= "New Window")[^]">^] as well.


                          There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                          Obliterator
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                          That looks really promising, cheers. -- The Obliterator

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